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DVA5974
Captain, B777-200
Joined on May 27 2008
50 State Club
Triple Century Club
Basking Ridge, NJ USA
324 legs, 1,326.6 hours
319 legs,
1,305.4 hours ACARS
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Posted onPost created on
October 23 2008 15:41 ET by Nikolay Klimchuk
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I'm using FSX heavily on my pretty old PC with Vista 64
Graphic: 8600GT
CPU: 2 cores 2.2GHz
RAM: 2GB
The question is how to find bottleneck in my system? How much RAM, memory on video card, cores FSX uses?
Going to quad core, 8800gt, 4GB. What is more important?
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DVA2541
Captain, B737-800
E-MAIL
Joined on August 17 2005
Century Club
"What's that button for? OOPs" Erwin, TN USA
122 legs, 206.7 hours
1 legs,
1.1 hours online 1 legs,
1.2 hours ACARS
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Posted onPost created on
October 23 2008 17:57 ET by John Swisher
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CPU Speed, Memory, VC
John SwisherCaptain, B737-800
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DVA5974
Captain, B777-200
Joined on May 27 2008
50 State Club
Triple Century Club
Basking Ridge, NJ USA
324 legs, 1,326.6 hours
319 legs,
1,305.4 hours ACARS
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Posted onPost created on
October 24 2008 08:06 ET by Nikolay Klimchuk
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I just wondering what requirements will be for PMDG 737NG V2
How much memory on video card FS X uses (with max settings) ?
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AFV003
Senior Captain, B737-800
Joined on May 03 2002
GVA 10 Year Anniversary
Century Club
"Oh yeah, NOTAM #19 is a must!" Indianapolis, IN
144 legs, 376.9 hours
59 legs,
129.5 hours online 121 legs,
328.9 hours ACARS 8 legs,
27.8 hours event 276 legs, 632.7 hours total 27 legs dispatched, 38.6
hours
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Posted onPost created on
October 24 2008 09:18 ET by Caitlyn Champlin
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I would not have anything less than 512 on the card, Nikolay. I've made product improvement suggestions to MS about making thir next version crossfire compatible. I bought 2x ATI 512MB cards last year for crossfiring only to find out afterwards that FSX doesn't support that...
Caitlyn ChamplinSenior Captain, B737-800
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DVA5974
Captain, B777-200
Joined on May 27 2008
50 State Club
Triple Century Club
Basking Ridge, NJ USA
324 legs, 1,326.6 hours
319 legs,
1,305.4 hours ACARS
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Posted onPost created on
October 24 2008 09:49 ET by Nikolay Klimchuk
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Thank you, Ryan
I'm stuck with Nvidia though ;-)
So 8800GT 512MB looks good.
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DVA4965
Senior Captain, B737-800
Joined on September 07 2007
Online Quintuple Century Club
Million Mile Club
Millennium Club
Everett Millennium Club
DVA Fifteen-Year Anniversary
Saratoga Springs, UT USA
1,195 legs, 3,500.8 hours
566 legs,
825.5 hours online 1,174 legs,
3,437.6 hours ACARS 26 legs,
51.6 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
October 24 2008 10:28 ET by Alan Cluff
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FSX will not run well on any CPU under 2.8 and over 3 is preferred. I have a very good video card with 768MB and it did not give me better frame rates, just a sharper picture. Your CPU is the bottleneck. I have a 2.4 quad core and FSX chokes it as well.
Alan CluffSenior Captain, B737-800
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DVA3931
Senior Captain, L-1011-100
OLP, COMM
Joined on January 19 2007
50 State Club
Tri-Jet Triumph
Million Mile Club
Online Quadruple Century Club
Flying Colonel
Globetrotter
Burbank 500 Club
Eurocap Club
DVA Fifteen-Year Anniversary
"De oppresso liber" Surry, ME
1,882 legs, 3,806.7 hours
478 legs,
767.8 hours online 1,107 legs,
1,674.5 hours ACARS 55 legs,
114.8 hours event 195 legs dispatched, 134.4
hours
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Posted onPost created on
October 24 2008 11:11 ET by Andrew Kaufmann
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512 won't do it for you
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DVA5974
Captain, B777-200
Joined on May 27 2008
50 State Club
Triple Century Club
Basking Ridge, NJ USA
324 legs, 1,326.6 hours
319 legs,
1,305.4 hours ACARS
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Posted onPost created on
October 24 2008 11:28 ET by Nikolay Klimchuk
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Interesting,
What about E8500 vs Q6600 ?
Same price
What's better 3.16 x 2 or 2.4 x4 ??
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DVA950
Senior Captain, B737-800
Joined on November 19 2002
Online Quadruple Century Club
Millennium Club
Million Mile Club
Events Double Century Club
DVA Twenty-Year Anniversary
"Houston, We have a Problem" Nazareth, PA USA
1,210 legs, 2,875.1 hours
1,147 legs,
2,716.7 hours online 886 legs,
1,977.2 hours ACARS 206 legs,
484.9 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
October 24 2008 11:55 ET by Anthony Piasecki
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2.4 and Overclock it to 3.4 Less money more power for the buck... Your bottleneck in Vista is the amount of backround processes running, FSX as stated is a resource hog and is CPU dependent. If you got more or less than 300 services running in the background , you are in essence choking FSX which is trying to scoff up those resources. 35 seems to be the max resources running to enjoy FSX
Anthony PiaseckiSenior Captain, B737-800
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DVA5974
Captain, B777-200
Joined on May 27 2008
50 State Club
Triple Century Club
Basking Ridge, NJ USA
324 legs, 1,326.6 hours
319 legs,
1,305.4 hours ACARS
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Posted onPost created on
October 24 2008 12:39 ET by Nikolay Klimchuk
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Anthony, what background services you mean? They are mostly sleep all the time. And I see just 20-30 processes in task manager.
PS: Don't want to overclock
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DVA950
Senior Captain, B737-800
Joined on November 19 2002
Online Quadruple Century Club
Millennium Club
Million Mile Club
Events Double Century Club
DVA Twenty-Year Anniversary
"Houston, We have a Problem" Nazareth, PA USA
1,210 legs, 2,875.1 hours
1,147 legs,
2,716.7 hours online 886 legs,
1,977.2 hours ACARS 206 legs,
484.9 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
October 24 2008 18:08 ET by Anthony Piasecki
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20-30 is fine, if you are running SB or FSINn Active sky Acars and all on the same pc that would bring you around 35-36 processes running, which should not hinder you that much. What is the major problem with your system now? other than a faster CPU, and I would definitely go with a q9550 vers an E8500 just for the shear fact you have a larger L2 cache available to you. first then an 8800 GTX especially if you do not have a PCIE2.0 slot for the newer 8600 card. Nothing wrong with the E series chips, but you will get better performance from a q verses a Dual. The extra hundred in the price tag is well worth the extra 6Mb of cache.
Ask terry how his 6850 is running FSX, but as stated his is coupled on a PCIe 2.0 format and not a 1.0.....
PS: OC'ng a q core just 10% is a drop in the bucket, but to each there own.. not trying to say you are wrong, please don't get me wrong there, but i will put any Quad up against a Dual 3.33Ghz, and still smoke em out LOL do a little reasearch on component matching, and I am sure you wll come to a very imformative descision, you can always email, and i will be glad to point you to some different readings.
Cheers.
Anthony PiaseckiSenior Captain, B737-800
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DVA3680
First Officer, B767-300
OLP
Joined on November 01 2006
Stock Car Racing Club
Century Club
Berthoud, CO
114 legs, 232.4 hours
97 legs,
212.8 hours online 106 legs,
215.1 hours ACARS 2 legs,
3.7 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
October 27 2008 15:03 ET by Kevin Williams
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If you're not into overclocking then grab the E8500.
Just to throw something out there, I overclocked a Q6600 (8MB cache) to 3.6 GHz and a E7200 (3MB cache) to 3.7 GHz to see what would happen, ran a benchmark (3 times each - fsx benchmark 2007). The E7200 barely won (even on the low end) - so raw horsepower won in this case. If you're into task switching the E7200 took quite a bit longer than the quad. Now I'm not saying this is a sure fact, just what happened on my system.
Kevin WilliamsFirst Officer, B767-300
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DVA5974
Captain, B777-200
Joined on May 27 2008
50 State Club
Triple Century Club
Basking Ridge, NJ USA
324 legs, 1,326.6 hours
319 legs,
1,305.4 hours ACARS
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Posted onPost created on
October 27 2008 15:09 ET by Nikolay Klimchuk
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Thank you, Kevin
That's really interesting
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