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DVA3551
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Posted onPost created on
November 17 2008 11:23 ET by Michael Chute
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I failed a recent 757-200 CR and that's not a big issue.
The FLAPS on this airplane are.----- my throttle quandrant showed t/o flaps set at 15° as suggested by the FMC---google earth showed NO FLAPS and I got the auriel "FLAPS" warning as I took off. I retracted flaps on take off to 5° and then 1° as I climbed. I have the Lonny panel installed.
What's going on with this Delta download. Is this a "preprogrammed" failure.
I just set up and I am on-line now with a test flight from CYHZ to VOR SJN and return and the same warning occurred. The 757-200 PDF Manual does not prescribed a specific degree setting for flaps BUT the "Gate Dparture" in the same manual shows flaps to be set at 5°. Surely we haven't made 5° the maximum on this download
Antbody?
Mike Chute DVA 3551
Michael ChuteCaptain, B737-800
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DVA6557
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Posted onPost created on
November 17 2008 11:46 ET by Ozan Babacan
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Hi Mike,
did you seen this topic http://www.deltava.org/thread.do?id=0xd5f3
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DVA3551
Captain, B737-800
Joined on September 15 2006
Century Club
Online Century Club
Halifax, NS Canada
167 legs, 399.8 hours
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185.0 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
November 17 2008 12:26 ET by Michael Chute
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Ozan:
I clicked on your suggested link but I am in FS9 and I can not find any "SHOW AIRCRAFT ANIMATIONS" setting to adjust although the problems outlined in the thread are the same as I am going through
Mike Chute DVA 3551
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DVA3787
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Posted onPost created on
November 17 2008 15:01 ET by Mark Salter
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It is in an ominous area. Go to:
Settings-->Customize-->Graphics Tab-->Advanced Animations
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Posted onPost created on
November 17 2008 15:03 ET by Luke Kolin
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One thing worth noting is that the Lonny Payne panel simulates turning off the hydraulics by doing a hydraulic failure, which depletes the fluid. I've never been able to duplicate the problem myself, but I have heard it elsewhere.
Cheers!
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Posted onPost created on
November 17 2008 16:15 ET by Vic DeSantis
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Mike, I assume you are using the fleet 757 for the checkride. The proper flap setting for t/o in this a/c is 5 degrees. If you are taking off with excess of five degrees, this may account for your flap warning.
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DVA3551
Captain, B737-800
Joined on September 15 2006
Century Club
Online Century Club
Halifax, NS Canada
167 legs, 399.8 hours
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185.0 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
November 17 2008 16:18 ET by Michael Chute
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Mark
Settings-->Customize-->Graphics Tab-->Advanced Animations
I have no idea what you are referring to "ominous area" ?
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Michael ChuteCaptain, B737-800
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DVA3551
Captain, B737-800
Joined on September 15 2006
Century Club
Online Century Club
Halifax, NS Canada
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Posted onPost created on
November 17 2008 16:21 ET by Michael Chute
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VIC:
Yes I found that out the hard way despite the Lonny FMC (PArt of the 757-200 panel) showing 15°
Mike Chute DVA 3551
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DVA043
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Posted onPost created on
November 17 2008 16:24 ET by Luke Kolin
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I regularly use 15 without warning. I'd check to ensure that the flaps are actually deploying, and there isn't a hydraulic issue.
Cheers!
Luke KolinSenior Captain, MD-11
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DVA3551
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Posted onPost created on
November 17 2008 16:30 ET by Michael Chute
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Ok Luke
Now I understand your earlier comment. I will check the hydraulics nest time
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Posted onPost created on
November 17 2008 16:31 ET by Mark Salter
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Mike-that's what Ozan Babacan said to go to in the link he provided. I was quoting directly. I said ominous, as in a wierd location that is hard to find. (??)
Did it help?
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DVA3551
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Posted onPost created on
November 17 2008 16:46 ET by Michael Chute
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MARK:
he must have been referring to FSX as I have no " settings and Customize so in Graphics Tab i clicked the Advanced Animations and all of them works." in FS9
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DVA3787
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Posted onPost created on
November 17 2008 16:55 ET by Mark Salter
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If I made a mistake I apologize. Sometimes it happens when you copy things verbatum.
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DVA3551
Captain, B737-800
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Halifax, NS Canada
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Posted onPost created on
November 17 2008 17:02 ET by Michael Chute
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No No Mark no criticism intended !!
I just copied/pasted what OZAN had in his post and that wasn't very kind of me. Unless i am really stupid, (possible:) ), I can not find an area of "advanced animations" in FS9 under "settings"
Mike Chute
Michael ChuteCaptain, B737-800
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DVA3551
Captain, B737-800
Joined on September 15 2006
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Halifax, NS Canada
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146 legs,
362.2 hours online 141 legs,
342.6 hours ACARS 73 legs,
185.0 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
November 17 2008 17:29 ET by Michael Chute
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Luke:
The Hydraulic issue is reaL !! In order to get the flaps to move at all on the NW 757-200 i have open in FS9, I first had to shut all hydraulic pumps off and then on again. I just watched on split screen. Did an F7 three times to get FLAPS 15 and while the handle indicator on the throttle quadrant showed 15 and Lonny's voice said Flaps 1, 5 15, the split screen clearly showed no movement on the wing. So I went to the overhead, shut down and reactivated the hydraulic pumps and the flaps opened to 15°.
This appears to be a "hit & miss" kinda thing but at night, you my not be able to tell if you have flaps or not
Thanks for the insight
Mike Chute DVA 3551
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Michael ChuteCaptain, B737-800
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DVA043
Senior Captain, MD-11
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2,241 legs, 8,967.3 hours
240 legs,
553.9 hours online 1,899 legs,
7,760.4 hours ACARS 75 legs,
196.3 hours event 2,277 legs, 9,102.2 hours total 91 legs dispatched, 66.4
hours
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Posted onPost created on
November 17 2008 18:03 ET by Luke Kolin
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Out of curiosity, what is your default aircraft in FS9?
Cheers!
Luke KolinSenior Captain, MD-11
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DVA3551
Captain, B737-800
Joined on September 15 2006
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Halifax, NS Canada
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Posted onPost created on
November 17 2008 18:23 ET by Michael Chute
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Luke
Cessna C172SP Skyhawk---hasn't changed since I bought FS9
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