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DVA5259
First Officer, B777-200
Joined on November 15 2007
Sacramento, CA USA
45 legs, 70.4 hours
5 legs,
9.1 hours online 43 legs,
66.5 hours ACARS
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Posted onPost created on
July 01 2009 13:28 ET by Daniel Haro
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Just would like to know how much FPS you all fly at. Here would be mine:
Intel Core 2 Duo E8500 @ 3.16GHz
ATI HD 4870 512MB PCI-E @ 750MHz/900Mhz
4GB G.SKILL RAM @ 1066Mhz
Offline: 75 FPS - Stutters
Vatsim: 40 FPS - Don't know why
ACARS: 75 FPS - Stutters
The 747 from POSKY drops my FPS as well. I don't know why.
I've been having stuttering problems. So I'd like to compare FPS with you guys. Noticed I posted in wrong section so I moved the thread.
Daniel HaroFirst Officer, B777-200
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DVA950
Senior Captain, B737-800
Joined on November 19 2002
Online Quadruple Century Club
Millennium Club
Million Mile Club
Events Double Century Club
DVA Twenty-Year Anniversary
"Houston, We have a Problem" Nazareth, PA USA
1,210 legs, 2,875.1 hours
1,147 legs,
2,716.7 hours online 886 legs,
1,977.2 hours ACARS 206 legs,
484.9 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
July 02 2009 08:19 ET by Anthony Piasecki
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Got one thing to say about FPS, FORGET IT.... Its a simulation not a bench mark utility.... On a serious note... There is a ton of articles out there on how to set up the simulator to achieve a (And I stress) Smooth and Stutter free experience. you can have 10000 fps and still have a slide show if you dont set this up correctly. I lock at 24 no need for anything more in fs9.
I believe some wheres in the vast threads on this topic, that keeps on popping up every two weeks or so, Basically it comes down to matching your system components to get the maximum out of your money spent. Both sims are still cpu intensive, as well some payware aircraft are. Setting up the system is just as important as well http://www.simviation.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1208959973/34#34 IT Works other wise I would not put the link here
Your system is a descent enough to run FSX as well if you set it up correctly. Just remember to get the FPS thing out of your head, and concentrate on smoothness.....
Anthony PiaseckiSenior Captain, B737-800
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DVA5259
First Officer, B777-200
Joined on November 15 2007
Sacramento, CA USA
45 legs, 70.4 hours
5 legs,
9.1 hours online 43 legs,
66.5 hours ACARS
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Posted onPost created on
July 02 2009 11:58 ET by Daniel Haro
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Thanks, although like I stated in a previous thread my HD 4870 doesn't allow me to go under the Refresh Rate. If it does it becomes a stuttering mess, so I have to keep it at my screens refresh rate which is 75Hz. So right now I am able to get 75FPS. With 1 stutter or 2.
I reinstalled and formatted my PC just yesterday. It did seem to help.
I will read more on that link. Thanks
Daniel HaroFirst Officer, B777-200
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DVA3774
Captain, B757-200
Joined on April 02 2004
Century Club
Melbourne, FL USA
132 legs, 328.0 hours
6 legs,
10.0 hours online 128 legs,
316.7 hours ACARS 3 legs,
5.3 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
July 02 2009 20:41 ET by Matthew Wright
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ha! just be happy that you get above 40 FPS. i only get 10 just by being in ATL offline
Matthew WrightCaptain, B757-200
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DVA5856
Captain, B767-300
Joined on April 24 2008
Frisco, TX USA
96 legs, 189.7 hours
74 legs,
152.9 hours online 93 legs,
184.8 hours ACARS 6 legs,
13.5 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
July 02 2009 22:42 ET by Houston Hamilton
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Im getting about 12 fps and my game will always freeze for a second some times, im using FS9, does anyone have any good threads that shows how to make it better? The ones ive seen are for FSX...
Houston HamiltonCaptain, B767-300
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DVA7373
Captain, B757-200
OLP
Joined on May 31 2009
"Howdy" Southeastern United States
72 legs, 187.6 hours
32 legs,
85.4 hours online 67 legs,
153.2 hours ACARS 2 legs,
3.1 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
July 02 2009 23:11 ET by Nicholas Taylor
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Houston, if you're getting that poor preformance from FS9, SOMETHING is wrong. Either your computer is 15 years old, something isn't working correctly, or something isn't set up correctly.
Nicholas TaylorCaptain, B757-200
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DVA5259
First Officer, B777-200
Joined on November 15 2007
Sacramento, CA USA
45 legs, 70.4 hours
5 legs,
9.1 hours online 43 legs,
66.5 hours ACARS
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Posted onPost created on
July 02 2009 23:49 ET by Daniel Haro
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With 10 FPS I wouldn't fly at all.
Daniel HaroFirst Officer, B777-200
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DVA5856
Captain, B767-300
Joined on April 24 2008
Frisco, TX USA
96 legs, 189.7 hours
74 legs,
152.9 hours online 93 legs,
184.8 hours ACARS 6 legs,
13.5 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
July 03 2009 00:03 ET by Houston Hamilton
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While im on the ground with sqkbox on I get around 15 fps with addon scenery, in the air I get around 25 fps, but I always get the spikes where it goes down to 5 and then I freeze for a second...
Houston HamiltonCaptain, B767-300
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DVA2239
First Officer, B777-200
Joined on March 27 2005
Century Club
Online Century Club
Norman, OK
121 legs, 470.4 hours
113 legs,
448.0 hours online 81 legs,
341.3 hours ACARS
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Posted onPost created on
July 03 2009 05:41 ET by David Reimer
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I could normally get 45-60 FPS in most situations, but I keep my FPS locked at 30. Makes it easier on the computer to get other stuff loaded in FS and allow me to use other major-demanding programs at the same time.
David ReimerFirst Officer, B777-200
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DVA3355
Senior Captain, B777-200
Joined on July 19 2006
Online Century Club
Flying Colonel
Everett 1500 Club
Four Million Mile Club
DVA Fifteen-Year Anniversary
"guiding you home..." Denver, CO USA
1,959 legs, 8,711.6 hours
181 legs,
715.0 hours online 1,891 legs,
8,382.8 hours ACARS 18 legs,
67.1 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
July 03 2009 09:32 ET by Daniel Hodnik
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If you do not interact with a game, minimal FPS is fine. You would be hard pressed to tell the difference between a sim running at 24fps and one at 60fps if you are flying autopilot and not providing any control inputs. This totally changes as soon as you start using your joystick or yolk and provide control input. If you can't tell a difference then, well I don't know what's wrong with ya, lol.
fs9 runs at 60fps for me, may dip to 40s during certain situations.
@Daniel, I don't understand your 'refresh rate' question. If you need to edit your numbers try a program called 'reforce'
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DVA5259
First Officer, B777-200
Joined on November 15 2007
Sacramento, CA USA
45 legs, 70.4 hours
5 legs,
9.1 hours online 43 legs,
66.5 hours ACARS
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Posted onPost created on
July 03 2009 12:10 ET by Daniel Haro
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What I mean is FPS need to stay at the Refresh Rate number or else the sim gets really "jumpy/twitchy". In other words bigger stutters appear. So since my Refresh Rate is at 75Hz I need to have a 75FPS Lock inside FS.
I remember when I had my first FS PC I only was able to get 15 FPS.
Pretty soon after alot of tweaking I was able to pull out 50 FPS out of the same old 15FPS PC!
Daniel HaroFirst Officer, B777-200
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DVA7373
Captain, B757-200
OLP
Joined on May 31 2009
"Howdy" Southeastern United States
72 legs, 187.6 hours
32 legs,
85.4 hours online 67 legs,
153.2 hours ACARS 2 legs,
3.1 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
July 03 2009 12:51 ET by Nicholas Taylor
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Daniel, if your refresh rate is 75Hz, it's better to run UNDER that, not at it. This way it can refresh faster than your frames and you will be free of stutters.
Nicholas TaylorCaptain, B757-200
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DVA6922
Captain, B737-800
Joined on January 14 2009
Century Club
50 State Club
B737 50 Club
DVA Ten-Year Anniversary
"Takeoffs are Opt. Landings are Mand." Edmond, OK
147 legs, 291.6 hours
140 legs,
282.1 hours ACARS
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Posted onPost created on
July 11 2009 11:03 ET by Jonathan Cope
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"Don't worry about FPS", that is absolutely the wrong answer. The higher your FPS the smoother the game will be. There's plenty of tips/tricks to free up more resources to get better FPS.
Set your ACARS to not save as often,
Flying online means you are using more resources to talk back and forth updating your computer to Vatsim. You could have a slower internet connection, a faster connection can help considerably.
Offline flying means your computer is processing only the game and nothing else in the way of DVA related applications. 40 FPS while online is pretty good, 75 FPS is fantastic. I wouldn't worry about a thing really unless you're someone like me who always tweaks their computer to get the max potential out of it.
Jonathan CopeCaptain, B737-800
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DVA5259
First Officer, B777-200
Joined on November 15 2007
Sacramento, CA USA
45 legs, 70.4 hours
5 legs,
9.1 hours online 43 legs,
66.5 hours ACARS
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Posted onPost created on
July 11 2009 11:14 ET by Daniel Haro
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40FPS would be in VATSIM only.
I do get my full 75FPS even when using ACARS.
Daniel HaroFirst Officer, B777-200
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AFV153
Senior Captain, A320
Joined on January 12 2009
Double Century Club
"Brace yourselves this might be bumpy" Sandwell GB
207 legs, 362.1 hours
207 legs,
362.1 hours ACARS
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Posted onPost created on
July 11 2009 15:32 ET by Dave Gandolfo
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@ Jonathon,
The statement about higher FPS isnt exactly true;
at 25 or 30 FPS the human eye cant detect individual frames, hence those figure being used for PAL and NTSC television transmissions.
True that at below 25 FPS the eye (and ultimately the brain) can detect flickering and less than smooth animation. for frame rates under 25FPS the statement about hgherframe rates is true.
Above 25FPS you cant detect it and the CPU is busy working at maintaining the artificially high FPS lock; which means that ther is more chance of stuttering in busy areas with addon scenery and aircraft.
Setting the FPS too high can actually introduce more issues than it solves. It might sound good that your FS is running at 50+FPS, but no one would really notice the difference between 25 and 50 fps when they were concentrating on flying rather then examining animation quality of the images.
If people claim to be able to spot he difference it is more likely due to the display technology being used. Yes, LCD's which have widely been accepted as the display of choice are inferior in virtually all areas to the old CRT's they replace but that is another topic.
So yes and no, higher FPS is better - but only upto 25/30 FPS where after it isnt noticable.
Dave GandolfoSenior Captain, A320
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DVA6922
Captain, B737-800
Joined on January 14 2009
Century Club
50 State Club
B737 50 Club
DVA Ten-Year Anniversary
"Takeoffs are Opt. Landings are Mand." Edmond, OK
147 legs, 291.6 hours
140 legs,
282.1 hours ACARS
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Posted onPost created on
July 16 2009 08:27 ET by Jonathan Cope
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If you're sitting in 2D cockpit, you can have just about whatever framerate you want and be fine. However to run the game smoothly, as a person who games 8 hours a day or more on many different types of games, I've noticed across many computers, many applications, many configurations with many different types of hardware, both as a enthusiast at home and as a professional computer repair technicians, when frame rates hit about 40, games are really smooth. Anything less and you can definitely tell a difference. 30-40 it's pretty smooth but some hesitations albeit slight, most people probably don't noticed nor care unless you're a "gamer" like I am. Anything less than 30 and you can really tell a difference.
So yes and no, depending on your point of view, but one should always strive for higher FPS, the higher the more smooth things are.
Jonathan CopeCaptain, B737-800
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DVA3931
Senior Captain, L-1011-100
OLP, COMM
Joined on January 19 2007
50 State Club
Tri-Jet Triumph
Million Mile Club
Online Quadruple Century Club
Flying Colonel
Globetrotter
Burbank 500 Club
Eurocap Club
DVA Fifteen-Year Anniversary
"De oppresso liber" Surry, ME
1,882 legs, 3,806.7 hours
478 legs,
767.8 hours online 1,107 legs,
1,674.5 hours ACARS 55 legs,
114.8 hours event 195 legs dispatched, 134.4
hours
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Posted onPost created on
July 16 2009 08:56 ET by Andrew Kaufmann
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If you haven't noticed, on your flight reports now, there is an average of your FPS, if you care.
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DVA5270
Senior Captain, B737-800
Joined on September 27 2007
50 State Club
Everett 500 Club
Online Quintuple Century Club
Nine Century Club
DVA Ten-Year Anniversary
"p=np" Charleston, SC USA
977 legs, 1,725.8 hours
578 legs,
894.1 hours online 931 legs,
1,647.1 hours ACARS 43 legs,
67.0 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
July 16 2009 09:47 ET by Don Thomas
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Aren't movies shot in something like 25-26 fps ?
Don ThomasSenior Captain, B737-800
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DVA7209
Captain, B767-300
Joined on April 11 2009
Seattle, WA USA
36 legs, 120.9 hours
1 legs,
1.8 hours online 34 legs,
113.7 hours ACARS
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Posted onPost created on
July 16 2009 10:46 ET by John Byre
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Movies are shot at 24 FPS, but they're able to do this because they turn off/down all of the lights, making the screen really bright. This gives you an afterimage effect that keeps the previous frame on the screen for fraction of a second, allowing the image to be a step ahead of your eye, making it look smooth. An average human can see roughly 27-30 FPS, however there obviously isn't a set number, everyone is different. That'd be like saying all 60 year olds can hear as well as a healthy 8 year old.
In danger though, our brains boost our vision up to between 30 and 38 FPS.
Personally I set my FSX frame rate to unlimited. It lets me run it at about 40 FPS. Any set rate for some reason drops me about 20 FPS, and I certainly don't want to be simulating the real world/my flying skills with a slideshow
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DVA6922
Captain, B737-800
Joined on January 14 2009
Century Club
50 State Club
B737 50 Club
DVA Ten-Year Anniversary
"Takeoffs are Opt. Landings are Mand." Edmond, OK
147 legs, 291.6 hours
140 legs,
282.1 hours ACARS
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Posted onPost created on
July 16 2009 15:10 ET by Jonathan Cope
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Cool, I didn't know Andrew, that's good info!
Jonathan CopeCaptain, B737-800
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DVA5259
First Officer, B777-200
Joined on November 15 2007
Sacramento, CA USA
45 legs, 70.4 hours
5 legs,
9.1 hours online 43 legs,
66.5 hours ACARS
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Posted onPost created on
July 16 2009 15:20 ET by Daniel Haro
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Cool thanks didn't know that either.
Daniel HaroFirst Officer, B777-200
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DVA3355
Senior Captain, B777-200
Joined on July 19 2006
Online Century Club
Flying Colonel
Everett 1500 Club
Four Million Mile Club
DVA Fifteen-Year Anniversary
"guiding you home..." Denver, CO USA
1,959 legs, 8,711.6 hours
181 legs,
715.0 hours online 1,891 legs,
8,382.8 hours ACARS 18 legs,
67.1 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
July 16 2009 17:17 ET by Daniel Hodnik
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these FPS threads make my head explode.
gonna pull out my nerd side... you should ask the guys in CAL or CPL if the chose to save their rigs and run at 24fps because that is what they eye can see... rofl.
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DVA5259
First Officer, B777-200
Joined on November 15 2007
Sacramento, CA USA
45 legs, 70.4 hours
5 legs,
9.1 hours online 43 legs,
66.5 hours ACARS
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Posted onPost created on
July 16 2009 18:29 ET by Daniel Haro
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Just overclocked my E8500 to 3.50GHz
Daniel HaroFirst Officer, B777-200
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DVA7373
Captain, B757-200
OLP
Joined on May 31 2009
"Howdy" Southeastern United States
72 legs, 187.6 hours
32 legs,
85.4 hours online 67 legs,
153.2 hours ACARS 2 legs,
3.1 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
July 16 2009 19:00 ET by Nicholas Taylor
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Nice Daniel, you should now get even better graphics performance at higher FPS :D.
Nicholas TaylorCaptain, B757-200
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