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DVA7829
Captain, CRJ-200
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Posted onPost created on
October 21 2009 22:27 ET by Gary Locke
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I am having an issue with only the CRJ200, and I have never had this issue before.
I am taking off, flaps 8, V1 speed should be 145, no rotation, takes to about 195 before I get rotation. Even tried a flaps 20 takeoff and it is still the same.
can someone tell me what I need to tweak, to get this back to normal
(has you can tell I am not very computer literate)
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DVA6566
Captain, B727-200
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Posted onPost created on
October 21 2009 22:32 ET by Chris Allen
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try adjusting the trim, so that you have a more nose-up tendancy. also yank bank all the way on your joystick when you want to rotate if its not responding to small movements
Chris AllenCaptain, B727-200
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DVA2701
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Posted onPost created on
October 21 2009 22:36 ET by Dean Shultz
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This question comes up about once a week. The CRJ requires a lot of trim to take off. The answer to how much is in the manual.
Chris, possibly the worst advice you can give. Do not yank all the way back on your joystick if it is not "responding to small movements"
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DVA7829
Captain, CRJ-200
Joined on July 08 2006
Century Club
Midwestern United States
107 legs, 151.1 hours
101 legs,
138.4 hours ACARS
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Posted onPost created on
October 21 2009 22:48 ET by Gary Locke
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Thank you Dean, there is the issue. The CRJ I had downloaded adjusted the trim automatically
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DVA6566
Captain, B727-200
Joined on October 30 2008
Western Canada
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Posted onPost created on
October 21 2009 22:51 ET by Chris Allen
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Dean, I didn't mean it literally. I mean if small movements on the joystick arent working, then use larger movements.
Chris AllenCaptain, B727-200
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DVA4241
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Posted onPost created on
October 22 2009 03:38 ET by Chad Rhinehart
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Trim I agree.
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DVA7343
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Posted onPost created on
October 22 2009 07:14 ET by John Morris
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the CRJ 200 requires alot of trim set it to somewhere between 2.8 and 3.0 20 degrees on flaps and will only require just a little on the back pressure
John MorrisCaptain, B777-200
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DVA7373
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Posted onPost created on
October 22 2009 16:01 ET by Nicholas Taylor
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Also, the take-off flaps for the CRJ-200 should be 20.
Nicholas TaylorCaptain, B757-200
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DVA7829
Captain, CRJ-200
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Midwestern United States
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Posted onPost created on
October 22 2009 18:02 ET by Gary Locke
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Nicholas..I am just going by real life experience, and we plan all CRJ flights at flap 8 and all EMB at flaps 9, for lower fuel consumption on climb. So that is how I have been flying on sim.
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DVA2701
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Posted onPost created on
October 22 2009 20:33 ET by Dean Shultz
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Nicholas, does the manual tell you to takeoff with flaps 20?
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DVA3787
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Posted onPost created on
October 25 2009 00:07 ET by Mark Salter
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Along with trim, excessive aircraft weight is the a huge problem within the CRJ program, so make sure your weight is not over MTOW.
Mark SalterSenior Captain, CRJ-200
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DVA7829
Captain, CRJ-200
Joined on July 08 2006
Century Club
Midwestern United States
107 legs, 151.1 hours
101 legs,
138.4 hours ACARS
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Posted onPost created on
October 25 2009 05:09 ET by Gary Locke
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Thought I had the trim set correctly yesterday.....mmmm NOT. Took off from SLC at MTOW, what I failed to notice, was that when I was taxiing out, I lost internet connection, and for some reason when re connecting the trim re set itself to normal. Talk about a long takeoff roll.
Second mistake, when enroute to COS, I had a great tailwind, and my groundspeed was 520, so I slowed from M.78 to M.70, which decreased my fuel burn causing me to land overweight, even doing one missed approach, for this reason
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