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DVA5259
First Officer, B777-200
Joined on November 15 2007
Sacramento, CA USA
45 legs, 70.4 hours
5 legs,
9.1 hours online 43 legs,
66.5 hours ACARS
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Posted onPost created on
September 12 2010 18:21 ET by Daniel Haro
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So I'm going to build a new Flight Sim Desktop with my Student Loan:
From Newegg:
Case: Antec Nine Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
Motherboard: GIGABYTE GA-P55-USB3 LGA 1156 Intel P55 USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
Video Card: GIGABYTE GV-N460OC-1GI GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
PSU: CORSAIR HX Series CMPSU-650HX 650W ATX12V v2.2 / EPS12V 2.91 SLI Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Modular Active PFC Power
Processor: Intel Core i7-950 Bloomfield 3.06GHz LGA 1366 130W Quad-Core Processor BX80601950
Memory: G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model F3-10666CL9D-4GBRL
HDD1: Western Digital VelociRaptor WD1500HLFS 150GB 10000 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
HDD2: SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
Monitor: ASUS VW195T-P Black 19" 5ms Widescreen LCD Monitor
Optical Drive: LG Black 10X Blu-ray Burner - Bulk SATA WH10LS30 LightScribe Support - OEM
OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium Full
Total Cost: $1,589.83
How does this look? I'm open for honest opinions.
If there's anything I can take out or reduce in cost let me know.
I'm giving my current rig to my father. My current one has many hiccups and can't render 3D Clouds too well which is a real bummer.
I'll be using it for FS9 primarily and if I can FSX.
-Daniel
Daniel HaroFirst Officer, B777-200
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DVA7899
Captain, B737-800
Joined on October 29 2009
Online Double Century Club
Long Beach Century Club
Triple Century Club
DVA Ten-Year Anniversary
"PMDG or go home :)" Springfield, MO USA
304 legs, 743.8 hours
283 legs,
682.2 hours online 303 legs,
740.0 hours ACARS 30 legs,
47.9 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
September 12 2010 18:26 ET by Skylar Macminn
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Get a 750W PSU honestly, or larger. Gives you the option to run that 460 in SLI later.
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DVA3196
Senior Captain, MD-11
OLP, COMM
Joined on June 03 2006
Online Double Century Club
50 State Club
Six Century Club
"pitchpowertrim.com" Anderson, MO
619 legs, 1,093.4 hours
292 legs,
503.1 hours online 580 legs,
1,026.5 hours ACARS 89 legs,
191.0 hours event 236 legs dispatched, 110.1
hours
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Posted onPost created on
September 12 2010 18:27 ET by Michael Brown
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Whats your budget?
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AFV348
Captain, B747-400
Joined on April 13 2006
International Tourist
Diplomatic Mission
50 State Club
Online Two Fifty Club
Quinticentenary Club
"fly a heavy or dont fly at all" Northeastern United States
536 legs, 1,889.5 hours
443 legs,
1,401.1 hours online 515 legs,
1,789.3 hours ACARS 20 legs,
68.7 hours event 842 legs, 2,782.9 hours total
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Posted onPost created on
September 12 2010 18:37 ET by Michael Schlabowske
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go with the i5 instead of the 7, you can get the same results from overclocking, runs cooler, and runs with less power, other then that, id say your gonna love your Flight Simming experience on that rig
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DVA3419
Captain, MD-88
Joined on July 31 2006
DVA Fifteen-Year Anniversary
"Propellers keep you kewl!" Newark, DE
67 legs, 89.6 hours
61 legs,
82.8 hours ACARS
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Posted onPost created on
September 12 2010 19:16 ET by Norm Hare
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Make sure its the 64bit OS so your system can take full advantage of the 5gb memory addressing. (4gb ram + 1 gb video ram). I mentioned this on another thread, but I dont really think a 1tb hard drive is necessary. I don't know what the price points are, but 500gb will probably suffice. Two 10k RPM drives would be optimum...15k if they are available, but would probably be pricy.
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DVA5259
First Officer, B777-200
Joined on November 15 2007
Sacramento, CA USA
45 legs, 70.4 hours
5 legs,
9.1 hours online 43 legs,
66.5 hours ACARS
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Posted onPost created on
September 12 2010 19:58 ET by Daniel Haro
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Im trying to keep it close to $1500,
I'll consider the 750W PSU
Regarding i5, what is the difference to the i7? I'm just power greedy
I heard 32-Bit can recognize more than 4GB of RAM... is the 64-Bit really necessary?
Also should I buy the Full Windows 7 OS or the OEM package for System Builders?
Windows 7 Home Premium is cheaper as OEM for System Builders priced at $99.
In regards to the memory is a CAS Latency of 9-9-9-24 good?
-Daniel
Daniel HaroFirst Officer, B777-200
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AFV348
Captain, B747-400
Joined on April 13 2006
International Tourist
Diplomatic Mission
50 State Club
Online Two Fifty Club
Quinticentenary Club
"fly a heavy or dont fly at all" Northeastern United States
536 legs, 1,889.5 hours
443 legs,
1,401.1 hours online 515 legs,
1,789.3 hours ACARS 20 legs,
68.7 hours event 842 legs, 2,782.9 hours total
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Posted onPost created on
September 12 2010 20:04 ET by Michael Schlabowske
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64 bit is 100 percent necesary if you want to run 64 bit programs as well as load her up in RAM. Always but the best you can afford, if you can afford the i7, by all means scoop it up. Me i run win 7 64 bit Ultimate. Its got more features, if you want to know more, head over to microsofts site and compare-----> http://store.microsoft.com/Windows7/Compare
but mine was an upgrade from vista so i surely didnt pay 319 for it, i bought the upgrade
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DVA5259
First Officer, B777-200
Joined on November 15 2007
Sacramento, CA USA
45 legs, 70.4 hours
5 legs,
9.1 hours online 43 legs,
66.5 hours ACARS
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Posted onPost created on
September 12 2010 20:09 ET by Daniel Haro
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I'm thinking Windows 7 Professional would be best suited.
I believe FSX and FS2004 should be made to run in Windows XP mode correct?
-Daniel
Daniel HaroFirst Officer, B777-200
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DVA7899
Captain, B737-800
Joined on October 29 2009
Online Double Century Club
Long Beach Century Club
Triple Century Club
DVA Ten-Year Anniversary
"PMDG or go home :)" Springfield, MO USA
304 legs, 743.8 hours
283 legs,
682.2 hours online 303 legs,
740.0 hours ACARS 30 legs,
47.9 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
September 12 2010 20:10 ET by Skylar Macminn
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OEM is the same thing as the full version, only difference is you cannot take that CD and install it on a new PC with a different motherboard.
You NEED 64bit. 32 bit will only read 3 1/2 gigs of your memory. Get 64bit so you can later upgrade to more ram if you choose.
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DVA5259
First Officer, B777-200
Joined on November 15 2007
Sacramento, CA USA
45 legs, 70.4 hours
5 legs,
9.1 hours online 43 legs,
66.5 hours ACARS
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Posted onPost created on
September 12 2010 20:25 ET by Daniel Haro
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I have Vista 64 Bit at the moment it does run the full 4GB but from what I've heard is that Windows 7 can accept 4GB of RAM on 32-Bit.
I'll end up buying the 64-Bit I guess.
-Daniel
Daniel HaroFirst Officer, B777-200
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DVA5259
First Officer, B777-200
Joined on November 15 2007
Sacramento, CA USA
45 legs, 70.4 hours
5 legs,
9.1 hours online 43 legs,
66.5 hours ACARS
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Posted onPost created on
September 12 2010 22:55 ET by Daniel Haro
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Can someone answer my unanswered questions that were skipped above? Thanks
-Daniel
Daniel HaroFirst Officer, B777-200
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DVA7899
Captain, B737-800
Joined on October 29 2009
Online Double Century Club
Long Beach Century Club
Triple Century Club
DVA Ten-Year Anniversary
"PMDG or go home :)" Springfield, MO USA
304 legs, 743.8 hours
283 legs,
682.2 hours online 303 legs,
740.0 hours ACARS 30 legs,
47.9 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
September 12 2010 23:04 ET by Skylar Macminn
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Daniel Haro wrote:
I have Vista 64 Bit at the moment it does run the full 4GB but from what I've heard is that Windows 7 can accept 4GB of RAM on 32-Bit.
I'll end up buying the 64-Bit I guess.
-Daniel
No. It will only read 3 1/2 of the 4.
And no don't run either in XP compatibility mode.
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DVA5259
First Officer, B777-200
Joined on November 15 2007
Sacramento, CA USA
45 legs, 70.4 hours
5 legs,
9.1 hours online 43 legs,
66.5 hours ACARS
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Posted onPost created on
September 12 2010 23:43 ET by Daniel Haro
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So I'm guessing Windows 7 has the best performance now that we dont even have to run in XP Compatibility mode?
Then I don't need the Professional or Ultimate really do I?
Thanks for clarifying.
I'm hoping that building the computer myself using my Stafford Loan money for $5500 isn't out of the question.
I want it for school work but as well for FS and such. I'm receiving direct deposit and I hear all these rumors that you can use the money for anything but as the person I am, I worry and quesiton always first.
-Daniel
Daniel HaroFirst Officer, B777-200
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DVA8977
Captain, B757-200
Joined on August 30 2010
Hammond, IN USA
15 legs, 32.3 hours
1 legs,
1.8 hours online 14 legs,
31.1 hours ACARS
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Posted onPost created on
September 13 2010 00:05 ET by Santino Cid
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You will want a different kit of RAM. What you have now is dual channel; the Intel 9xx series will run best on triple channel. Mushkin is pretty good: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820226102
Santino CidCaptain, B757-200
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DVA5259
First Officer, B777-200
Joined on November 15 2007
Sacramento, CA USA
45 legs, 70.4 hours
5 legs,
9.1 hours online 43 legs,
66.5 hours ACARS
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Posted onPost created on
September 13 2010 00:14 ET by Daniel Haro
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Wow thanks! I added that to my list.
But now with everything suggested im looking at a price of $1599 lol.
I had to remove the Velociraptor and well im down to $1459.
I've replaced it with this one: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136544
It has 6.0GB/s, 64MB Cache and 7200RPM.
-Daniel
Daniel HaroFirst Officer, B777-200
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DVA3707
First Officer, B737-800
Joined on November 11 2006
Century Club
DVA Fifteen-Year Anniversary
Western United States
111 legs, 214.7 hours
67 legs,
117.3 hours online 106 legs,
206.5 hours ACARS 2 legs,
3.2 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
September 13 2010 00:45 ET by Andrew Martz
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Regarding Windows 7, it looks like you already know, but definitely go with OEM. You save a boat load of cash. Also, keep an eye out for bundle deals. I just recently built a machine for a different purpose, and a bundle showed up that got me Windows 7 for $80. (or half of the case, depends on how you look at it).
Andrew MartzFirst Officer, B737-800
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DVA5259
First Officer, B777-200
Joined on November 15 2007
Sacramento, CA USA
45 legs, 70.4 hours
5 legs,
9.1 hours online 43 legs,
66.5 hours ACARS
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Posted onPost created on
September 13 2010 01:43 ET by Daniel Haro
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Thanks sounds good will do.
-Daniel
Daniel HaroFirst Officer, B777-200
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DVA5259
First Officer, B777-200
Joined on November 15 2007
Sacramento, CA USA
45 legs, 70.4 hours
5 legs,
9.1 hours online 43 legs,
66.5 hours ACARS
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Posted onPost created on
September 21 2010 23:59 ET by Daniel Haro
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As a bump, is the GTX 260 generally a good video card for FS2004 and FSX?
I don't see much videos on youtube with people using it for FS.
Those that I have seen, it seems like their system is bottlenecked or either bad configuration.
Also is there any bottlenecks/compatibility problems that you can see in my configuration?
If someone could please analyze the products for me as well, that'd be great and much appreciated.
On another note can the i7 be overclocked easily to 3.80GHz at least?
You can find the products at Newegg.
Case:
Antec Nine Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
Motherboard:
GIGABYTE GA-P55-USB3 LGA 1156 Intel P55 USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
Video Card:
GIGABYTE GV-N460OC-1GI GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support
PSU:
OCZ ModXStream Pro OCZ700MXSP 700W ATX12V V2.2 / EPS12V SLI Certified CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Modular Active PFC
Processor:
Intel Core i7-950 Bloomfield 3.06GHz LGA 1366 130W Quad-Core Processor BX80601950
Memory:
Mushkin Enhanced Blackline 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model 998781
HDD:
Western Digital Caviar Black WD6402AAEX 640GB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive
Optical Drive:
ASUS DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS Black SATA 24X DVD Burner - Bulk - OEM
OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Professional OEM
Total Cost: $1,152.91
If you've noticed I've managed to cut down my cost.
-Daniel
Daniel HaroFirst Officer, B777-200
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DVA7899
Captain, B737-800
Joined on October 29 2009
Online Double Century Club
Long Beach Century Club
Triple Century Club
DVA Ten-Year Anniversary
"PMDG or go home :)" Springfield, MO USA
304 legs, 743.8 hours
283 legs,
682.2 hours online 303 legs,
740.0 hours ACARS 30 legs,
47.9 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
September 22 2010 00:18 ET by Skylar Macminn
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I have my intel i7 920 D0 overclocked to 4.0Ghz on an H50 cooler, so I imagine with modifying the voltage on your 950 you can do it.
Go with the 460 tbh -- DX11 support is being added to new games, and I guarantee it will be with the new Microsoft Flight game.
Edit:
Generally speaking, your largest bottleneck will be your Hard Drive (Lower RPM). The 460 is a super card for the price range, and the 950 with a sizable overclock will be great. Your only issue will be the hard drive (I'm talking a 7200rpm hard drive vs a Solid State (SDD).
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DVA5259
First Officer, B777-200
Joined on November 15 2007
Sacramento, CA USA
45 legs, 70.4 hours
5 legs,
9.1 hours online 43 legs,
66.5 hours ACARS
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Posted onPost created on
September 22 2010 00:27 ET by Daniel Haro
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Oops I noticed I wrote GTX 260 instead of GTX 460 haha. Sorry.
Yes I'll be going with the GTX 460 then.
I'll keep looking at the Hard Drives too.
Thanks!
-Daniel
Daniel HaroFirst Officer, B777-200
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