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DVA041
First Officer, B757-200
Joined on June 15 2001
Century Club
Online Century Club
Northeastern United States
139 legs, 223.2 hours
115 legs,
182.0 hours online 11 legs,
24.1 hours ACARS
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Posted onPost created on
March 08 2005 14:31 ET by Jerry Armstrong
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I am trying to get better framerates in fs2004 my system is 1.1Ghz 512mb ram 64mb video card what do i need to upgrade to get better fps now i am getting about 8 10fps on the ground at katl default scenery and 14 in the air with lds767 i would be happy to get fps on the ground up to atleast 14
Captain Jerry Armstrong dva041
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DVA1933
Senior Captain, B727-200
Joined on September 19 2004
Triple Century Club
Monterrey, NL Mexico
357 legs, 860.4 hours
72 legs,
132.3 hours online 255 legs,
668.3 hours ACARS 1 legs,
1.9 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
March 08 2005 14:39 ET by David Eugenio Gomez
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Well, I have a P4 1.8 Ghz -- 640 (not 64, but 640 :P) MB of RAM and a GeForce4 MX440 w/ 128 MB..... with this I get like 11 FPS on the ground with normal to heavy weather and few AI traffic. On the air, I get like 17 FPS with not so complex planes. I haven't tried the LVD767, so can't tell you how'd it run in my system. But PMDG's 737NG totally kills my frame rates (except for the 2D panel only version, which gives me like 9 FPS on the panel and 11 FPS on the air from the outside) I don't think that you need anything above 2.8 or 3 Ghz to get some VERY decent frame rates. But any 2.0 Ghz to 2.6 Ghz would do. It depends on your budget to get a new PC or to improve it.
Best Regards...
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DVA1778
Senior Captain, MD-88
Joined on July 06 2004
Online Century Club
Triple Century Club
"Fly Douglas Jets!" Milwaukee, WI USA
358 legs, 1,172.8 hours
153 legs,
345.4 hours online 107 legs,
334.7 hours ACARS 18 legs,
35.0 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
March 08 2005 15:45 ET by Ali Ghasemz
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I have a 2.6 GHZ P4 with 800 mhz front side bus. 512 mb ram. ATI Radeon 9600 video card with 128 mb of ram. I normally get between 18-20 FPS with any aircraft.
Regards,
Ali GhasemzSenior Captain, MD-88
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DVA1778
Senior Captain, MD-88
Joined on July 06 2004
Online Century Club
Triple Century Club
"Fly Douglas Jets!" Milwaukee, WI USA
358 legs, 1,172.8 hours
153 legs,
345.4 hours online 107 legs,
334.7 hours ACARS 18 legs,
35.0 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
March 08 2005 15:46 ET by Ali Ghasemz
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800 mb fron side bus not 800 mhz.
Regards,
Ali GhasemzSenior Captain, MD-88
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DVA1910
Senior Captain, B777-200
Joined on September 18 2004
Triple Century Club
Online Century Club
Northeastern United States
352 legs, 1,543.8 hours
132 legs,
557.8 hours online 58 legs,
220.8 hours ACARS 1 legs,
4.3 hours event 741 legs, 3,101.2 hours total
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Posted onPost created on
March 08 2005 16:30 ET by Ryan Wilson
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PMDG killed my computer too. It would get one frame per second with the 2d panel. Had to give up on the PMDG for now. When i get a new computer maybe i'll be able to run it again since its such a nice aircraft.
Ryan
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DVA1933
Senior Captain, B727-200
Joined on September 19 2004
Triple Century Club
Monterrey, NL Mexico
357 legs, 860.4 hours
72 legs,
132.3 hours online 255 legs,
668.3 hours ACARS 1 legs,
1.9 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
March 08 2005 16:50 ET by David Eugenio Gomez
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Hey Ryan, I had this weird issue too.... Just like you, I was getting less than 2.5 FPS in the 2D Panel Only variation, but suddenly, I was getting over 7 FPS in busy airports, which never happened. I don't know what I did to fix it, I don't even know if I was the one who fixed that Keep tryin, you might be lucky...
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DVA1507
Captain, B757-200
Joined on February 06 2004
Western United States
44 legs, 124.5 hours
4 legs,
7.9 hours online 1 legs,
1.2 hours ACARS
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Posted onPost created on
March 08 2005 17:16 ET by Ron Kress
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I'm useing a Athlon 1,000MHz Thunderbird with 640MbDDR ram.
And for a video card i'm useing an ATI 32Mb DDR Radeon 7200.
I get by with this ok but I dont use any addon AI traffic I use just the default traffic and most of my settings are on the low settings. I when I get to the big citys like JFK and its night or night and weather like rain and fog my frame rite drop down to about 3 to 7 FPS. This is with the 737-800 here from Delta Virtual.
In the air or over the ocean my frame rates are up to 23 to 30FPS.
I would recommend eather building a new system or buying a new one. I know HP seems to have a good sale with a Athlon 64 system it is the a810n or something like that. It can be bought for around 650 USD. I'm thinking about buy this system myself and adding ram and better video card to it.
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DVA630
Senior Captain, B777-200
Joined on June 22 2002
Million Mile Club
DVA Twenty-Year Anniversary
Eight Century Club
Online Seven Century Club
Everett 250 Club
B757 100 Club
"Flightsimaroma therapy." Bainbridge, PA
873 legs, 2,775.4 hours
783 legs,
2,429.4 hours online 487 legs,
1,454.8 hours ACARS 19 legs,
64.1 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
March 08 2005 17:45 ET by Kenneth Rodriguez
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Hi Jerry, You may want to do yourself a favor. 1st thing to ask yourself what type of PC are you looking to have overall? Are you looking for a PC that will support MSFS with good frame rates and also be able to use multi-media programs? E.G. Video editing, graphics programs, etc.? Or just something to better your FPS in MSFS and keep doing what you PC functions are doing outside of FS on a normal basis?
Here's what I'd do. For better FPS in MSFS, upgrade your CPU to the highest your motherboard will handle. Remember, motherboards can experience degraded service if you put in a rocket CPU and you have a low end MB. You will need to know your chipset to get the proper CPU. Check your BIOS if you can. You may want to look into a better VPU card. Nothing too fancy, just something a little more recent with better Gigabit per second processing. Minimum memory should be 128MB for FS9. The final and probably most inexpensive upgrade you can invest in is more RAM. Go as high as your motherboard will handle. You'd be surprised at the improvement you'll experience. All in all, you'd spend somewhere in the area of between 400-500USD.
If you're looking for a PC that can handle alot more than that and give you FPS in MSFS, then do not invest in anything other than a gaming PC or build one yourself if you can. Gaming PC's are aimed at running graphic intensive programs and multi-tasking at the same time. Here are my specs below:
AMD Athlon 64 3800+
3GB PC3200 Matched DDR RAM
Asus A8N-SLI Deluxe nVidia Socket 939 Motherboard
NVIDIA nForce4 SLI chipset
Western Digital Caviar SE 200GB SATA HD @ 10K RPM Partitioned X4 (I have MSFS running on it's own partition)
BFG GeForce 6800 Ultra/256MB GDDR3/AGP 8X
Enermax EG851AX-VH 660Watt Power Supply
Windows XP Pro SP2
I just upgraded from an Nvidia FX5700 256MB card a couple of days ago. I average 50-55 FPS on the ground in KATL, KJFK, KORD and all the majors with all of the sliders pushed to the max. and traffic at 100%. During flyins, with a MP session on FS9 and FSNav running, I average about 45-47 FPS in the same areas.
So it really comes down to what you want your PC to do. Do your research on the web and find what is best for you. If you need any further help, drop me an e-mail.
I forgot to mention one thing, if you're going to upgrade, please make sure that your power supply can handle the demand of the components being installed.
Best Regards.
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DVA041
First Officer, B757-200
Joined on June 15 2001
Century Club
Online Century Club
Northeastern United States
139 legs, 223.2 hours
115 legs,
182.0 hours online 11 legs,
24.1 hours ACARS
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Posted onPost created on
March 09 2005 05:39 ET by Jerry Armstrong
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ok thanks everyone i cant really afford much right now do you think a better video card will help a little bit.
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DVA630
Senior Captain, B777-200
Joined on June 22 2002
Million Mile Club
DVA Twenty-Year Anniversary
Eight Century Club
Online Seven Century Club
Everett 250 Club
B757 100 Club
"Flightsimaroma therapy." Bainbridge, PA
873 legs, 2,775.4 hours
783 legs,
2,429.4 hours online 487 legs,
1,454.8 hours ACARS 19 legs,
64.1 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
March 09 2005 14:20 ET by Kenneth Rodriguez
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If you're on a budget, try getting a better video card. Doesn't have to be high end. Then invest in more memory. An additional 256MB can be had for as little as around $20 bucks. Maybe even less than that if you shop around. Make sure you match the PC speed. Makes no sense to purchase PC3200 if you're running PC2100. Your computer is only as fast as your slowest memory stick.
Best Regards.
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DVA630
Senior Captain, B777-200
Joined on June 22 2002
Million Mile Club
DVA Twenty-Year Anniversary
Eight Century Club
Online Seven Century Club
Everett 250 Club
B757 100 Club
"Flightsimaroma therapy." Bainbridge, PA
873 legs, 2,775.4 hours
783 legs,
2,429.4 hours online 487 legs,
1,454.8 hours ACARS 19 legs,
64.1 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
March 09 2005 14:23 ET by Kenneth Rodriguez
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Your options are endless.
Best Regards.
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DVA1910
Senior Captain, B777-200
Joined on September 18 2004
Triple Century Club
Online Century Club
Northeastern United States
352 legs, 1,543.8 hours
132 legs,
557.8 hours online 58 legs,
220.8 hours ACARS 1 legs,
4.3 hours event 741 legs, 3,101.2 hours total
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Posted onPost created on
March 10 2005 10:54 ET by Ryan Wilson
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Kenneth, How did you partition MSFS onto its own? That's a good idea. Does it have a effect on the speed etc. that the game runs at?
Ryan
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DVA1603
Captain, B727-200
Joined on April 02 2004
Double Century Club
Albany, GA USA
266 legs, 399.1 hours
85 legs,
131.0 hours online 93 legs,
129.4 hours ACARS 2 legs,
3.4 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
March 10 2005 12:14 ET by Michael Wilson
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Ryan,
Kenneth was referring to having 4 partitions on his hard drive, and installing FS on a partition all by itself. If you opened up "My Computer", instead of seeing C:, you would be seeing C:, D:, E:, and F: as available hard disk storage. For example, instead of displaying a 40 gig hard drive as C: with a capacity of 40 gigs, you see a 40 gig drive split up into 4 10 gig "drives". Physically, it is 1 hard drive that Windows treats like 4 smaller ones. You can divide the partitions up however you choose.
You will find differing schools of thought on that method. Many people avoid secondary partitions simply to avoid confusion. I have never noticed a difference with software installed onto secondary partitions, other than the fact that the game directory is easier to access for modifications. Some people use a small partition (6 gig or so) for the operating system and install everything else to secondary partitions. I use my primary partition for the operating system and all software, my secondary partition contains "archived" files and ISO images. The sole reason for that partition's existence is that I keep all my software backed up as ISO images, and store them (with other files) on a partition that is never defragmented.
If you want increased performance relative to your hard drive, use RAID0...;)
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DVA1910
Senior Captain, B777-200
Joined on September 18 2004
Triple Century Club
Online Century Club
Northeastern United States
352 legs, 1,543.8 hours
132 legs,
557.8 hours online 58 legs,
220.8 hours ACARS 1 legs,
4.3 hours event 741 legs, 3,101.2 hours total
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Posted onPost created on
March 10 2005 15:31 ET by Ryan Wilson
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Ok, I new how to do that and i must have been getting confused with loading windows xp onto a partition. Thanks for the clarification
Ryan
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