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DVA963
First Officer, B777-200
Joined on November 18 2002
Southeastern United States
36 legs, 164.4 hours
27 legs,
118.7 hours online
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Posted onPost created on
May 11 2003 16:10 ET by Jared Hodge
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Hey I've been with DVA for a few months flying the 777-300, I love this VA and would like to see some improvement. Many may disagree but I just want to hear and see what other are thinking.
I was wondering if DVA was going to improve the flight planning resources to its pilots. I did a flight down to SAEZ and it took me forever to find out where the airport was (bueno Aires, SA) It would be cool to have a better database of airport and maybe already made flight plans.
I was also wondering if DVA was going to stay with the fly out of any hub operation and maybe become structured to have pilots based out of a hub? I just think this would make the VA a little more real.
The one thing that I'm finding inconvient is not having the the flight assignments updated, again with the 777-300, the only "unassigned" flights are Air France flights. (should I talk to my chief pilot about this)
So those are just a few things, I don't know if anyone things differently then I'll shut up, but I would kinda like to see a little more airline realism.
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DVA822
Senior Captain, B777-200
Joined on September 05 2002
Quincentenary Club
Million Mile Club
"I love the smell of jet fuel" Northeastern United States
589 legs, 2,254.6 hours
47 legs,
112.9 hours online 97 legs,
400.7 hours ACARS 16 legs,
39.2 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
May 11 2003 16:29 ET by Trevor Fenimore
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Jared,
I think it is important that you are voicing your opinion, but I think that DVA is very realistic, and if you are flying the 772 you should proabaly know where Buneos Ares is, and maybe if you had posted in the water cooler, your fellow pilots could of told you a fine site for charts and flight planning. DVA does have hubs, but just not like other VAs, we are put into aircraft programs and rather than a hub manager overseeing everyone at the hub we have chief pilots overseeing the pilot in the that aircraft program, which I think is very realistic in itself. And you don't have to fly assigments, you can just pick a flight in the Real Delta timetable and fly it. I understand that you are just saying what you think can be done to improve the airline, but I personaly don't think that is much improvement that needs to be done.
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DVA803
Senior Captain, CRJ-200
E-MAIL
Joined on August 22 2002
Online Century Club
Double Century Club
Midwestern United States
210 legs, 339.3 hours
199 legs,
324.4 hours online 2 legs,
4.9 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
May 11 2003 17:00 ET by Matt Moak
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Yes, Flight Assignments are added by the Chief Pilot. But, don't just fly flight assignments, search the Real World Timetable and find a flight that you want to fly. Maybe talk to Rob and he could make some assignments for you.
Matt
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DVA963
First Officer, B777-200
Joined on November 18 2002
Southeastern United States
36 legs, 164.4 hours
27 legs,
118.7 hours online
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Posted onPost created on
May 11 2003 20:42 ET by Jared Hodge
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Well, I knew where SAEZ was, it's the fact of having flight planning to get there (besides going FMS direct). I guess my big gripe would be, to have a better flight planning division. Going to flight planning really doesn't aid a DVA pilot in planning his route of flight. It would be nice to have something like what the NYC ARTCC has for flight planning. Information on Airports, what airways to take from point A to B and was SIDs and STARs to use. I mean is it just me or should that be a benefit a pilot should get from his/her airline?
The HUB thing really doesn't bother me, but in the real airline industry pilots go through the bidding for assignments routine. The only benefit I see in this is people flying to destinations they wouldn't usually fly to. I really don't see DVA adapting to the bidding for flights thing so I'm not even going to get into that. Just think flight planning and the resources for us to use to plan flights could be better (beside asking other pilots, "what's the best way to get there?")
Hope someone sees what I'm saying :-)
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DVA822
Senior Captain, B777-200
Joined on September 05 2002
Quincentenary Club
Million Mile Club
"I love the smell of jet fuel" Northeastern United States
589 legs, 2,254.6 hours
47 legs,
112.9 hours online 97 legs,
400.7 hours ACARS 16 legs,
39.2 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
May 12 2003 02:59 ET by Trevor Fenimore
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I understand where you are coming from, and I do agree that we could improve the flight planing section a little bit, but to make it like NY ARTCC it would take a lot of work, and a few months ago DVA did try a bidding system, but I don't know what happened to it.
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DVA947
Senior Captain, B757-200
Joined on November 18 2002
Century Club
Online Century Club
Midwestern United States
139 legs, 373.3 hours
138 legs,
372.2 hours online 11 legs,
30.9 hours event 216 legs, 623.1 hours total
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Posted onPost created on
May 12 2003 11:39 ET by Tom Haug
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Jared,
You normally will not find one database that can satisfy all your flight planning needs. The best one I have found is FSNav4. It can be purchased at http://www.fsnavigator.com/ for about 35.00USD.
There are only two things I would like to see added to the FSNav program:
1. the ability to display and printout the airways of the flight plan.
2. allow for the existence of North Atlantic Tracks (NATs).
There are update for the program made available for each change in the air cycle.
In lieu of FSNav, you can find routes at most of the virtual ARTCCs or go to the U.S. government site http://www.fly.faa.gov/Products/Coded_Departure_Routes/coded_departure_routes.html and search their database. Again, there is not always a flight plan available, but nothing is perfect.
Delta VA allows the pilots to select their own itinerary, so download a copy of the real schedule from https://www.delta.com/schedules/travel/reservations/flight_sched/index.jsp
Tom Haug - DVA947
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