Delta Virtual Airlines Water Cooler | Airline Operations |
****Other virtual airlines steals our menu**** |
DVA1339
Captain, CRJ-200
Joined on September 26 2003
Southeastern United States
69 legs, 182.6 hours
2 legs,
3.2 hours online
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Posted onPost created on
March 27 2004 06:22 ET by Brian Jesus
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Look at this, this virtual airliner stole our menu: http://www.skyairlines.com.br/ . If you right click over it and click on "view source" you will see the deltava url there and everything. People just can't help it trying to be like us, the best virtual airline out there.:)
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DVA953
Senior Captain, B737-800
E-MAIL
Joined on November 17 2002
50 State Club
Double Century Club
Online Double Century Club
"V1 means V1..." West Lafayette, IN USA
214 legs, 376.8 hours
211 legs,
373.0 hours online 117 legs,
223.6 hours ACARS
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Posted onPost created on
March 27 2004 06:29 ET by James Brickell
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I don't know what Luke wants to do about that but they're stealing our stuff! Let's have Dave set up a war with them and see what goes down
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DVA544
Senior Captain, B727-200
Joined on October 24 2001
Online Century Club
Triple Century Club
Southeastern United States
329 legs, 661.4 hours
186 legs,
368.2 hours online 47 legs,
90.0 hours ACARS 7 legs,
22.1 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
March 27 2004 07:01 ET by Joe DeGregorio
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maybe a **very polite** email from Luke and Terry will clear it up very fast.....;-p
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DVA320
Senior Captain, B777-200
E-MAIL
Joined on September 22 2001
Online Double Century Club
Triple Century Club
Midwestern United States
365 legs, 1,242.5 hours
353 legs,
1,216.6 hours online 2 legs,
4.6 hours ACARS
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Posted onPost created on
March 27 2004 09:16 ET by Awais Ahsan
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I don't really care, cause we made it first and we have over 700 people to tell that. Do what you can do about it, but we are still the best!
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DVA1140
First Officer, B757-200
Joined on March 16 2003
Double Century Club
Western Europe
254 legs, 1,137.4 hours
10 legs,
24.5 hours online 324 legs, 1,393.2 hours total
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Posted onPost created on
March 27 2004 09:21 ET by Daniel Counahan
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they stole the whole site template. but just put different wording on it. if this site is copyrighted they are in breach of copyright law.
Cheers
Daniel Counahan
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DVA803
Senior Captain, CRJ-200
E-MAIL
Joined on August 22 2002
Online Century Club
Double Century Club
Midwestern United States
210 legs, 339.3 hours
199 legs,
324.4 hours online 2 legs,
4.9 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
March 27 2004 10:22 ET by Matt Moak
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Oh but how nice of them... they took the time to save Luke's style sheet and not eat our bandwidth by linking to us. Get 'em Terry.
Matt
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DVA043
Senior Captain, MD-11
OLP
Joined on June 10 2001
Event Half Century Club
Online Double Century Club
50 State Club
DVA Twenty-Year Anniversary
Everett 1500 Club
Bi-Millennium Club
Four Million Mile Club
"Col. Panic" Marietta, GA
2,241 legs, 8,967.3 hours
240 legs,
553.9 hours online 1,899 legs,
7,760.4 hours ACARS 75 legs,
196.3 hours event 2,277 legs, 9,102.2 hours total 91 legs dispatched, 66.4
hours
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Posted onPost created on
March 27 2004 10:35 ET by Luke Kolin
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Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.
To use an Atlanta example, the competetive advantage of the Coca-Cola company is *not* the "secret formula". I'm sure probably every single soft drink manufacturer has a copy of it kicking around. The real genius of Coke is their ability to mass produce, distribute and develop a reputable world-wide brand - not the actual product formula itself.
Same thing with DVA. Our competetive advantage stems not from the actual web site look and feel, but the workflow behind those pages, the calibre of our staff and the content we provide. The other key advantage we have is YOUR interest - which makes the Water Cooler what it is. Someone could probably copy the entire site and still not match what we have.
As the owner of the copyright on our site, I probably should send them a note regarding the copyright that they claim. I have the ability but not the desire to enforce said copyright (especially not in Brazil) but I suppose an acknowledgement would be nice.
Cheers!
Luke
Luke KolinSenior Captain, MD-11
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DVA950
Senior Captain, B737-800
Joined on November 19 2002
Online Quadruple Century Club
Millennium Club
Million Mile Club
Events Double Century Club
DVA Twenty-Year Anniversary
"Houston, We have a Problem" Nazareth, PA USA
1,210 legs, 2,875.1 hours
1,147 legs,
2,716.7 hours online 886 legs,
1,977.2 hours ACARS 206 legs,
484.9 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
March 27 2004 14:07 ET by Anthony Piasecki
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So true Luke, had a look at the site, Quite remarkable how similar the layout is LOL, Still doesn't beat the best VA here in the virtual communtinity at DVA though, But i must Agree, when using a design or modifying one at best, one should atleast give thnx to the author that originally designed it to begin with, I know i get a little perturbed, when I spend numerous hrs and days on these darn AFCADS for FS9 and someone comes along downloads the file adds some little stupid gate here and there and calls it theirs. Now That really Pi$$$, you get the point. I can now see why people are going from freeware to payware.... A letter should be brought forth, in my very humble opinion.
Anthony PiaseckiSenior Captain, B737-800
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DVA1008
Senior Captain, B757-200
Joined on December 14 2002
B757 100 Club
Everett 250 Club
50 State Club
Six Century Club
Online Six Century Club
DVA Fifteen-Year Anniversary
"Fly 'till the map turns blue" Kokomo, IN
633 legs, 1,731.3 hours
613 legs,
1,689.9 hours online 212 legs,
792.3 hours ACARS 35 legs,
77.7 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
March 27 2004 15:21 ET by Matt Young
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I agree with Luke. They can copy all they want, but they'll never match the levels of knowledge, friendship, and professionalism we all share here.
Matt YoungSenior Captain, B757-200
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DVA057
Senior Captain, B777-200
COMM
Joined on June 02 2002
Events Century Club
Six Century Club
Online Quintuple Century Club
Everett 500 Club
50 State Club
DVA Twenty-Year Anniversary
"We Are ... Penn State!" Atlanta, GA USA
672 legs, 1,338.4 hours
531 legs,
1,076.4 hours online 392 legs,
786.1 hours ACARS 190 legs,
406.3 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
March 27 2004 16:47 ET by Terry Eshenour
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Luke if you are true to the metaphor about Coca-Cola you will defend to the bitter end brand, logoform, copyright and proprietary rights. You are correct about the cola formula. Cole's legal department would make a legion. The fact that Coca-Cola is a secretformula known to a few select employees and locked in SunTrust Bank vault adds to the mystique and cache for the product. Your secret is the functioning scripts.
I think you are doing the right thing to send them an email pointing out that they used copyrighted material without permission. They can save the trouble of corecting it by simply joining us.
Terry EshenourSenior Captain, B777-200
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DVA544
Senior Captain, B727-200
Joined on October 24 2001
Online Century Club
Triple Century Club
Southeastern United States
329 legs, 661.4 hours
186 legs,
368.2 hours online 47 legs,
90.0 hours ACARS 7 legs,
22.1 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
March 27 2004 17:49 ET by Joe DeGregorio
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Im not sure I want a bunch of thieves within our ranks....those guys down there,not necessariley the same folks,but from the same country none the less,have violated many model copyrites and have really ticked off a lot of the freeware aircraft makers.
Me,IMO...well....I think a surgical strike by Seal Team 5 is in order.
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DVA043
Senior Captain, MD-11
OLP
Joined on June 10 2001
Event Half Century Club
Online Double Century Club
50 State Club
DVA Twenty-Year Anniversary
Everett 1500 Club
Bi-Millennium Club
Four Million Mile Club
"Col. Panic" Marietta, GA
2,241 legs, 8,967.3 hours
240 legs,
553.9 hours online 1,899 legs,
7,760.4 hours ACARS 75 legs,
196.3 hours event 2,277 legs, 9,102.2 hours total 91 legs dispatched, 66.4
hours
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Posted onPost created on
March 27 2004 19:06 ET by Luke Kolin
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I have sent them a polite note. They are more than welcome to use the design, but they cannot claim ownership or copyright.
Cheers!
Luke
Luke KolinSenior Captain, MD-11
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DVA455
Senior Captain, MD-88
Joined on April 29 2002
Century Club
"Aquatone" Shelbyville, IN
132 legs, 255.8 hours
79 legs,
158.6 hours online 29 legs,
52.9 hours ACARS 2 legs,
3.8 hours event 276 legs, 632.7 hours total 23 legs dispatched, 11.3
hours
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Posted onPost created on
March 27 2004 23:40 ET by Ryan Watkins
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As my personal hero, General George S. Patton, once said regarding Feild Marshall Romell, we ought to come face to face, them in their planes, us in ours, get out, shake hands and do battle. That would decide the outcome of the war. lol
Let's declare "War" with them on Vatsim like we had with CVA!! lol [calm down, Spike, too many war movies... hehe]
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DVA544
Senior Captain, B727-200
Joined on October 24 2001
Online Century Club
Triple Century Club
Southeastern United States
329 legs, 661.4 hours
186 legs,
368.2 hours online 47 legs,
90.0 hours ACARS 7 legs,
22.1 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
March 28 2004 05:06 ET by Joe DeGregorio
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Luke,if you view source on the side nav bar on their site....this is what you see..
<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <!-- saved from url=(0077)http://www.deltava.org/delta/vdelta.nsf/SideNav?OpenPage&BaseTarget=MainFrame --> ZHTML> <HEAD>
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DVA544
Senior Captain, B727-200
Joined on October 24 2001
Online Century Club
Triple Century Club
Southeastern United States
329 legs, 661.4 hours
186 legs,
368.2 hours online 47 legs,
90.0 hours ACARS 7 legs,
22.1 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
March 28 2004 05:06 ET by Joe DeGregorio
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hhmmm...its posting the whole code....imma email it to ya on note pad.
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