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AFV011
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Posted onPost created on
January 12 2005 06:26 ET by Michael Carter
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Does anyone here know if the Thrustmaster TQS throttle is compatable with the CH Products flight yoke?
I'd like to put the FLCS on the back burner for now since my combat flying days are probably over and switch to a yoke. However, the TQS has been turned into a B727 throttle quadrant and I don't want to give this up.
Thrustmaster doesn't know and neither does CH.
I thought about PFC and one other high-end yoke, but I don't want to spend the money if they're not going to work together.
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DVA1044
Senior Captain, B767-300
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Posted onPost created on
January 12 2005 06:43 ET by Lloyd Arms
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No they are not. You might be able to use a third party software to combine them however.
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AFV016
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Posted onPost created on
January 12 2005 12:38 ET by Steve Pickle
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I saw a guy that had the CH yoke and throttle working at http://www.vcair.com/forums/index.php?t=msg&th=497&start=0&rid=0&S=6958ea82c71fdd92c610d774725d62e5 (Don't worry I did not join)
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AFV016
First Officer, A320
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Posted onPost created on
January 12 2005 13:27 ET by Steve Pickle
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My goof...thats CH and CH not CH and thrustmaster...its a sweet setup though.
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DVA630
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Posted onPost created on
January 12 2005 15:09 ET by Kenneth Rodriguez
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I currently use three components on my desktop setup:
CH Yoke
CH Pro Pedals &
ThrustMaster Afterburner Throttle
The down side is that I am using up 3 USB ports. The upside? It's great not to have to use the throttle on the CH yoke which does not provide much realism. I have the stick portion of the Thrust Master Afterburner tucked under my desk sitting on it's own shelf. I had to disable the axis' and assignments in FS9 for the stick portion and configured the buttons on the throttle to what I saw fit. I also flipped the throttle around to be able to be used on the right side of the yoke as opposed to the stndard configuration.
In regards to the TQS throttle, is this a stand alone unit? On my Thrustmaster, unfortunately this is not so, thus why I had to keep the stick part, but out of the way. I was able to confifure all three components seperately within FS9.
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DVA1044
Senior Captain, B767-300
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Posted onPost created on
January 12 2005 17:25 ET by Lloyd Arms
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I use the CH Pro Yoke, Pedals and Throttle Quadrant. Its a sweet setup!
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AFV011
Senior Captain, B777-300
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Posted onPost created on
January 12 2005 17:31 ET by Michael Carter
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The TQS is not a stand-alone throttle. It has to be used with at least the FLCS stick. This is what I was afraid of. The mouse and the keyboard run through these controls.
I'm wondering if I just leave the stick connected as-is and install the yoke through the USB port and see if I can configure Windows to ignore the FLCS without loosing the TQS/B722 throttle.
I also wonder whether or not changing IRQ assignments will have a positive effect.
You'd think one company, somewhere in the world could make a realistic looking airliner throttle quadrant instead of a couple of plastic knobs and shafts hooked to a potentiometer.
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AFV011
Senior Captain, B777-300
Joined on September 19 2004
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"Remember...140, 250, and REALLY FAST" Midwestern United States
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16.0 hours event 501 legs, 763.5 hours total
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Posted onPost created on
January 17 2005 18:07 ET by Michael Carter
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I have found out that the PC (older version) of the CH yoke *may* work with the TM TQS electronics. I will have to plug the keyboard back into the computer as the flight yoke has no keyboard support. I'm not worried about that.
I may buy this and try it. If it doesn't work I'll have to return it.
Does anyone know the elevator travel length (pull) of the yoke on the CH product?
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AFV016
First Officer, A320
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Posted onPost created on
January 18 2005 05:35 ET by Steve Pickle
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I reccommend the CH yoke. It "pulls" perfect. It is kind of force feedback and they say its not.
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AFV016
First Officer, A320
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Joined on December 10 2004
Midwestern United States
17 legs, 29.9 hours
12 legs,
20.7 hours online 1 legs,
3.3 hours event 740 legs, 2,044.9 hours total
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Posted onPost created on
January 18 2005 05:41 ET by Steve Pickle
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Oh my goof again. You can "pull" it around 5" and push it in around 4".
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AFV011
Senior Captain, B777-300
Joined on September 19 2004
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"Remember...140, 250, and REALLY FAST" Midwestern United States
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126.5 hours ACARS 8 legs,
16.0 hours event 501 legs, 763.5 hours total
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Posted onPost created on
January 18 2005 10:38 ET by Michael Carter
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What is the travel in centimeters?
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DVA630
Senior Captain, B777-200
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783 legs,
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1,454.8 hours ACARS 19 legs,
64.1 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
January 21 2005 17:51 ET by Kenneth Rodriguez
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Michael:
The push travel is 5.08cm as is the pull travel. They are both the same.
Best Regards
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AFV011
Senior Captain, B777-300
Joined on September 19 2004
GVA 5 Year Anniversary
Online Two Fifty Club
Triple Century Club
Historic Triple Century Club
"Remember...140, 250, and REALLY FAST" Midwestern United States
394 legs, 606.7 hours
274 legs,
430.6 hours online 86 legs,
126.5 hours ACARS 8 legs,
16.0 hours event 501 legs, 763.5 hours total
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Posted onPost created on
January 21 2005 18:19 ET by Michael Carter
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Thank you Kenneth. That is the answer I was looking for. That's a pretty short travel compared to just about any real airplane. I know you can pull the yoke right into your lap in the Cessna series during a stall.
I may pass on this and just save the money for the PFC or Go-Flight products. I want something that looks and feels real so I guess I'll have to pay real money for it.
Thanks for checking for me.
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DVA1044
Senior Captain, B767-300
Joined on January 12 2003
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"Fly Delta Jets" Roswell, NM USA
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62 legs,
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5.2 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
January 21 2005 19:26 ET by Lloyd Arms
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With the limited space I have The CH Products I use are well worth the money. Now when I get ready to build a flightdeck they will no longer work. After being burned on that real flight deck I've decided I'm going to build one myself that can be transported with easy dissassembly etc. For now CH does the job quite well.
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AFV011
Senior Captain, B777-300
Joined on September 19 2004
GVA 5 Year Anniversary
Online Two Fifty Club
Triple Century Club
Historic Triple Century Club
"Remember...140, 250, and REALLY FAST" Midwestern United States
394 legs, 606.7 hours
274 legs,
430.6 hours online 86 legs,
126.5 hours ACARS 8 legs,
16.0 hours event 501 legs, 763.5 hours total
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Posted onPost created on
January 21 2005 19:55 ET by Michael Carter
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I haven't quite worked out the space issue yet. I know one of the yoke boxes is about 18" deep and 24" wide so the monitor will have to sit on top of it.
Another I looked at is pretty much just the yoke, measuring about 8" square and about 20" deep. That one might be a problem unless I build a platform for the monitor to slide the yoke box underneath.
I've read reviews on the CH product having trouble mounting to curved-front computer tables of which mine is. I'm not thrilled with that amount of travel either. The others are high-priced, but the ads tout that they have much of the same feel as an aircraft in flight which is different while on the ground, and are guaranteed to work with any system from Win98 on up. The PFC company offers three different models for general aviation, large twin turboprop, and jet.
I'd sure like to find someone with one of these two controllers (PFC & Go-Flight) and hear what they have to say about them.
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DVA1044
Senior Captain, B767-300
Joined on January 12 2003
Century Club
"Fly Delta Jets" Roswell, NM USA
127 legs, 388.8 hours
62 legs,
199.3 hours online 2 legs,
5.2 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
January 21 2005 20:01 ET by Lloyd Arms
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I've had to modify my desk somewhat to use the CH stuff. Its tapered from the top down. I'll try to get a good pic of it tomorrow to post . The TQ is at the same height as the yoke which isn't realistic. But limited room doesn't allow a change at this time.
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DVA630
Senior Captain, B777-200
Joined on June 22 2002
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"Flightsimaroma therapy." Bainbridge, PA
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783 legs,
2,429.4 hours online 487 legs,
1,454.8 hours ACARS 19 legs,
64.1 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
January 22 2005 15:28 ET by Kenneth Rodriguez
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Michael,
My cousin has the PFC Cirrus yoke setup and it is very good. The feel is a whole lot more real than the CH. I am using the CH due to space constraints and to keep the wife quiet. And it does the job just as well as anything on the market, well, for my level within the hobby anyways.
I have used the PFC and it is very nice. Top dollar though. The Jet style yoke weighs in at a hefty $570.00 US for the USB version and weighs 20 Lbs.
If you want real, like you said, you're going to have to pay real money.
Best Regards....
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AFV011
Senior Captain, B777-300
Joined on September 19 2004
GVA 5 Year Anniversary
Online Two Fifty Club
Triple Century Club
Historic Triple Century Club
"Remember...140, 250, and REALLY FAST" Midwestern United States
394 legs, 606.7 hours
274 legs,
430.6 hours online 86 legs,
126.5 hours ACARS 8 legs,
16.0 hours event 501 legs, 763.5 hours total
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Posted onPost created on
January 22 2005 17:41 ET by Michael Carter
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Thanks for the review. That's where my dollars will be going.
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