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AFV011
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Posted onPost created on
August 31 2006 22:34 ET by Michael Carter
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If you have a multiple independant throttle set-up like those provided by Go-Flight, CH Products, PFC, etc, I need to know if the reversers' action are all independant as well as the throttle control.
Do you still have to use the F2 key for reverser action? If you pulled a reverser lever on one engine, will ONLY that engine respond? Or will all engines respond on the single command?
I need to find out this information before I wire up the reversers on my new throttle quadrant.
Thanks for any help anyone can provide.
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Posted onPost created on
August 31 2006 22:46 ET by Ryan Wilson
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Michael,
I set up my throttle quad (CH) in June so its been a while, but I might be able to help you out. I used their key mapper program to make either my yoke or joystick work with my peadals and quad as one. Then I assigned all the keys in FS. Then I used FSUPIC to calculate the axis points for the throttle locations. I have independent reversers currently working. CH included a little bump in the throttles that you can use to gauge the spot where you can program the reversers. My axis points are not perfect, but they are pretty good. I was also using a freeware version of FSUIPC to program the quad. There were cetain checkboxes that I had to check (one I belive was to have FSUIPC overwirte the axis point assingments for the axies on the quad). It took a few hours to get everything set up since CH didn't include directions (which is annoying), but with a little help from FSUIPC, you should be able to get it!
If you need some more info, just shoot me an email, and I can pull up some of the specs!
Ryan WilsonSenior Captain, B747-400
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AFV011
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Posted onPost created on
August 31 2006 23:37 ET by Michael Carter
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Thanks Ryan for the quick responce. I guess what I needed to know is if FS supports independant thrust reversers for each engine, or if it was an 'all or nothing' type action regardless of independant throttle operation.
You've answered my questions for now. Thanks. Now I have to buy two more position sensors from Mouser.
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Posted onPost created on
August 31 2006 23:43 ET by Ryan Wilson
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Great to hear that I answered them! Now, as I was thinking about this more, how are you planning on wiring the throttles into the computer? Are you going to link them all into one main box so they are as a CH one or are you going to link each one in seperately (would require a lot of USB ports )? I don't know if FS (or FSUIPC for that matter) would support multiple throttles for different engines if they are not part of the same main system (thinking of quad again). It all depends on how you are going to wire it. Keep us posted!
Ryan WilsonSenior Captain, B747-400
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DVA043
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Posted onPost created on
September 01 2006 00:06 ET by Luke Kolin
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I am fairly certain that a registered FSUIPC should support multiple, independent reversers. You may want to check the documentation, and if it's unclear drop Pete Dowson a line. He is most responsive, albeit a touch impatient with those who do not read the documentation.
Cheers!
Luke KolinSenior Captain, MD-11
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AFV011
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Posted onPost created on
September 01 2006 00:20 ET by Michael Carter
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In order to avoid the USB wiring hassle and an expensive programmable board, the throttle will be wired to a 15 pin game port plug and use a USB converter much like I'm using on my current throttle.
I have a wiring diagram that was drawn for a 747 set up, so a three engine jet should be no problem. It is currently listed as a four-axis, four-button controller.
The wiring diagram did not have any reverse thrust for the engines and my first thought was to use just one switch in one throttle shaft and program the Hagstrom board to emulate the F2 key upon lifting the reverser levers.
I have not investigated the full capabilities of a registered copy of FSUIPC as it relates to device programming. I know it's capable of quite a bit, and I'll have a look at the docs.
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Posted onPost created on
September 01 2006 01:11 ET by Michael Holmes
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Yeah Ryan, it's amazing what all that a registered copy of FSUIPC will allow you to do that FS will not normally do.
Cheers!
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AFV011
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Posted onPost created on
October 19 2006 23:30 ET by Michael Carter
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I little late getting back to this, but I will be using a USB analog input card. It's not the wiring hassle I thought it would be.
The hassle is finding one in the States, that is affordable, and that is in-stock for those who sell them. So far I have not been able to get all three of these together.
I've been reading the FSUIPC document for weeks. This should be a breeze. The first time I move the flap lever to the 15 position and watch the needles move around the dials I'll probably have to change my drawers. FSUIPC has awesome capabilities.
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Posted onPost created on
October 19 2006 23:50 ET by Adam Gaweda
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FSUIPC does support independent thrust reversers.
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AFV011
Senior Captain, B777-300
Joined on September 19 2004
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"Remember...140, 250, and REALLY FAST" Midwestern United States
394 legs, 606.7 hours
274 legs,
430.6 hours online 86 legs,
126.5 hours ACARS 8 legs,
16.0 hours event 501 legs, 763.5 hours total
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Posted onPost created on
October 20 2006 09:51 ET by Michael Carter
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I found that out. Not a problem though, it's a small sacrifice to make considering it's a computer program and not a real 727.
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