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A PROBLEM WITH THE CRJ NOT "TAKING OFF" |
DVA2051
Captain, B767-300
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498 legs,
605.9 hours online 856 legs,
1,544.0 hours ACARS 5 legs,
8.3 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
October 13 2006 01:09 ET by Mario Johnson
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When trying to take off in all takeoff configurations (8 or 20 degree flaps), the plane just won't lift until i'm off the runway in terrain up to 200 kts then it'll start a gradual lift.
I went to my archives and found an Earlier (PRE-ACARS COCKPIT) Delta version and it worked fine, Does anybody else have the same probelm?
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DVA1583
Senior Captain, MD-11
OLP
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Posted onPost created on
October 13 2006 02:48 ET by Charly Azcue
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Hi Mario,
1. Check the amount of fuel you loaded for the flight, if you need more than 6300 lbs of fuel change the payload from 14250 lbs to a smaller number.
With a payload of 14250 lbs + 6300 lbs fuel you're near MTOW (Maximum Take-Off Weight) of 51000 lbs
2. Set the trim 1 or 1 1/2 notch up.
3. Up you go
Regards
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DVA2370
Senior Captain, B737-800
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Posted onPost created on
October 13 2006 10:22 ET by Scott Clarke
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Also check the CG and make sure it is not full forward--9,000 lbs in the nose may be the problem....or have the heavy passengers sit in the back.....fuel is an issue and so is weight and balance....
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DVA2051
Captain, B767-300
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8.3 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
October 13 2006 10:26 ET by Mario Johnson
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Does it have this natural left pulling tendancy that has been reported too?
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DVA2887
Senior Captain, A320
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Posted onPost created on
October 13 2006 11:33 ET by Andrew Vane
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That is a natural tendency in all aircraft Mario but often more so in prop aircraft. There are three factors that contribute to the pull: p-factor (force of blades on air pushing down, torque and I forgot the last one).
If you don't like it you can dumb it down in the FS9 configuration settings.
Andrew VaneSenior Captain, A320
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DVA273
Assistant Chief Pilot, B777-200
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Posted onPost created on
October 21 2006 17:16 ET by Michael Evans
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This may be a weight and balance issue more than anything. Assure your fuel loads and payload are correct before you go rolling. E.g I took off once in my DC 10 and wondered why the sucker wouldn't lift a few years ago. Turns out this time when FS started my payload was far in excess (red zone) for my flight and the aircrafts limitations. (In other words- what Charly said)
Michael EvansAssistant Chief Pilot, B777-200
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DVA2750
Senior Captain, B757-200
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Posted onPost created on
October 21 2006 18:15 ET by Derek Bradley
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Mario I have had this problem in the updated fleet CRJ- you have to adjust the trim way up
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DVA2728
Captain, MD-11
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Posted onPost created on
October 21 2006 19:33 ET by Shane Olguin
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Alright guys...
Since I'm the one who did the update, I'm going to re-evaluate it again tonight with some new tools I have for correctly determining CG and trim setting. However, last time I fixed it, it was fine. I think we're just having some big cases of operator headspace and timing issues. ;-)
I'll get back to you tonight with what I find. In the meantime we need to investigate a gauge that shows the actual position of the stabilizer, not that silly wheel with the "notches" because those notches are absolutely arbitrary and they don't show you any raw, tangible information (IE 6.2° Aircraft nose up).
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DVA3501
Captain, B767-300
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Posted onPost created on
October 21 2006 21:29 ET by Scott Windham
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Put your flight attendant on a diet
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DVA3615
Captain, MD-88
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Posted onPost created on
October 25 2006 00:22 ET by Christopher Sidor
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I have had the same problem
Christopher SidorCaptain, MD-88
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DVA3363
Captain, B777-200
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Posted onPost created on
October 25 2006 17:16 ET by Ricardo Sosa
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Its the trim. The only problem is I don't think theres a gauge that shows to how many knotches and such the trim is set to.
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DVA2728
Captain, MD-11
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Posted onPost created on
October 25 2006 21:30 ET by Shane Olguin
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http://www.deltava.org/thread.do?id=0xAD49
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