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Posted onPost created on
July 18 2007 22:09 ET by Matthew Gervais
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Oli you can stop bugging me about not havign one lol
will finaly get AA (anti aliasing)
Ok i am looking into a graphics card and i have 2 in mind. they are for playing FS9
ATI X1650Pro PCI-Express 512MB Video Card:
http://www.bestbuy.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?sku_id=0926INGFS10081934&catid=20397&logon=&langid=EN
and ATI Radeon X1300 Pro AGP 256MB Video Card:
http://www.bestbuy.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?logon=&langid=EN&sku_id=0926INGFS10071794&catid=20397
my system specs(second page)
http://www.docs.sony.com/release/specs/VGCRB43_2rev_mksp.pdf
I would like to know which would run better on my system?
Thanks for all your help!
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Posted onPost created on
July 18 2007 22:55 ET by Geoffrey Smith
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I don't have much knowledge of ATI cards in general, but don't buy at Best Buy. It's never close to Newegg because their selection is much worse. For example, as to the first card, this is the same ATI chipset, same ram size but packaged by Saphire for a little more than half the price (even when you take into account the canadian dollar): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102073
The ATI in house card is NOT worth twice the price.
And here's the exact other card you were looking at for a little more than half the price: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102677
Your $140 budget can probably take you up another tier at Newegg.
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DVA2996
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Posted onPost created on
July 18 2007 23:15 ET by Matthew Gervais
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my budget is up to 190
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Posted onPost created on
July 18 2007 23:59 ET by Geoffrey Smith
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Well, that said, here's a link to one of the best review sites around and they've got a recent article naming what they think the best graphics cards are in each price range. This page has the ~$140 and the ~$200 cards (the "~$200" is ~170 US on Newegg with 256 mb DDR3 VRAM). http://www.tomshardware.com/2007/07/03/the_best_gaming_video_cards_for_the_money/page3.html
Your computer will work with any of the three cards on that page as it has an unoccupied PCI-x16 slot, the current standard. From your specs, I'm guessing you're largely running FS9 but running it very well. Other can confirm this, but I believe the take on FS9 is that order of importance to performance is a) CPU (single core max speed) b) CPU.... c) CPU...then somewhere around f) GPU Clock Speed g) Graphics RAM. So you should probably choose a faster clocked card with less video ram than a slower card with 512.
You might consider adding another 1 gb of real ram and going for a cheaper graphics card but someone else will have to speak to exactly how that trade off works.
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Posted onPost created on
July 19 2007 10:24 ET by Daniel Hodnik
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Not sure if someone pointed this out already - but those are two very different types of cards. One is PCIe and one is AGP. I have seen only 2 or 3 motherboards that you can purchase that accept both of these types of cards and chances are (actually willing to bet) you sony does not do this.
From the specs I cannot tell what type of slot your motherboard has for video. All it explains is that it is currently using onboard memory for video and the output is VGA.
Keep in mind most of the features in FS9 require processing power and ram to gain FPS. That's not to say a video card will not help your gameplay...
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Posted onPost created on
July 19 2007 10:34 ET by Matthew Gervais
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Ok thanks for that daniel my FPS already shoot up to 50-60 during flight.
Dan do you know where i could find waht type of card i would need?
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DVA2996
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Posted onPost created on
July 19 2007 10:38 ET by Matthew Gervais
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Expansion Slots
Multi-Media Card Reader6 (Memory Stick®, Memory Stick
PRO/Duo?, Compact Flash® Type I and Type II, SD/
MultiMediaCard?, Smart Media/xD Picture Card®)
One x1 PCI Express
Two PCI (one occupied)
One x16 PCI Express
Dan could this be the slots?
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Posted onPost created on
July 19 2007 11:17 ET by Geoffrey Smith
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Yeah, I'd already looked at it, you need a PCI x16 (PCI Express) as I referenced in my later post.
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Posted onPost created on
July 19 2007 18:52 ET by Barry Harmon
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Yep, the X1650 for PCI-E would be your choice. One word of caution, though. Check to see how large a power supply your system has. Chances are it's going to be the absolute minimum necessary to run the system without any add-on cards. For the higher-end video cards you really need to have at least a 400w power supply, and 450w or 500w would be better.
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