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DVA4949
Captain, DC-6
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Posted onPost created on
September 29 2007 00:41 ET by Chris Prine Jr.
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Ok please anybody everybody help, I thought it was my joystick, but I disabled the joystick and it is still doing the same things.
The first few pics are plane trimmed for take off, and not touching the joystick, the pictures labed r2,r3 etc mean I tried to use as little rudder to keep straight until off the ground then just let the trim take it. The aircraft will just keep turning left until it just falls out of the sky. If I straighten her out she just starts turning left again, anybody know of how to fix this, it is making flying no fun, please if you know what I need to do help. I am not that computer savy so please simple directions if available.
Thanks Delta Pilots for your help.
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DVA3196
Senior Captain, MD-11
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Posted onPost created on
September 29 2007 00:45 ET by Michael Brown
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How severe is this? ....are you sure this isn't P-factor your seeing? It is modeled in FS. Look in your realism settings.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P-factor
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DVA4949
Captain, DC-6
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Posted onPost created on
September 29 2007 00:48 ET by Chris Prine Jr.
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Very severe, the plane did a full turn left before the end of the runway and I was flying back over the runway, let me try a jet and see if it does the same thing.
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DVA4070
Captain, B767-300
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Posted onPost created on
September 29 2007 00:53 ET by Zachary Smith
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Usually the p factor only applies to propellor driven aircraft not jet powered aircraft Chris. Just try to counter the p factor by using the rudder.
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DVA4949
Captain, DC-6
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Posted onPost created on
September 29 2007 00:57 ET by Chris Prine Jr.
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Well I understand that there might be a p-factor but the realism settings are on easy, and its a pretty bad bank to the left.
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DVA4949
Captain, DC-6
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Posted onPost created on
September 29 2007 00:59 ET by Chris Prine Jr.
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You know I am a pretty easy going guy, and I know I dont have the best computer, but I am getting problem after problem, now after I start a flight, and when I unpause it at the beginning the plane shuts off and wont come back on. Is this something I am doing to the game, or just bad luck
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DVA4176
Senior Captain, L-1011-100
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Posted onPost created on
September 29 2007 08:19 ET by Scott D Williams
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This happened to me twice in the last month. Once on the ground in Beech 1900 just as you illustrate and once in the air in the fleet B757 resulting in an uncontrolled hard left spiral. I had to stop and then re-start FS9 and problems went away. Have not come back in a while and I do not know what caused it. Both engines were running perfectly.
Scott D WilliamsSenior Captain, L-1011-100
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DVA4949
Captain, DC-6
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Posted onPost created on
October 01 2007 15:45 ET by Chris Prine Jr.
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It seems to be getting better but I still have that problem from time to time, I guess it could be a lot of things as long as its not pulling like it did before, really makes hand flying to tedious, or maybe thats just something I have to get use to.
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DVA421
Senior Captain, B727-200
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Posted onPost created on
October 01 2007 19:54 ET by Joe Shikany
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The downward moving propeller blade generates more thrust than the upward moving blade. This what causes the aircraft to drift to the left. Is more critical in tailwheel aircraft than aircraft with a nosewheel.
Joe ShikanySenior Captain, B727-200
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DVA3787
Senior Captain, CRJ-200
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Posted onPost created on
October 01 2007 20:26 ET by Mark Salter
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This happens to me a few times too. I have discovered a few reasons to why it happens. First off in the Ceasna, make sure on the ignition key you have the key turned to BOTH. You may just be running the left part of the engine. Also, make sure when you start your joystick throttle is all the way down, and any rudder buttons on your joystick are set to normal before starting FS. If the left turn happens even in the air bring up your throttle quadrant-you will see that your joystick is only moving the left engine throttle and not the right one. There is no definite way to fix this that I know of, but try going to the settings during the flight and reset some of your joystick callibrations and maybe it will reboot itself.
Next the plane shutdown, I've had this happen a few times also at the gate. Make sure you have no failures set before the flight. To fix the problem hold down CTRL and E or whatever your engine start is. This usually brings the plane back up and running-at least on bigger jets. As a last resort, go under your settings and change a key assignment to "electrical failure." Then if you press this key it should quit itself-this is just a thought though.
Mark SalterSenior Captain, CRJ-200
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DVA1628
Captain, B767-300
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Posted onPost created on
October 01 2007 21:41 ET by Glen Novitsky
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"First off in the Ceasna, make sure on the ignition key you have the key turned to BOTH. You may just be running the left part of the engine."
HUH? Say what? Umm.. no. The Cessna has a dual magneto system, which is a back up ignition system. One fails, the other still works. It basically is a two spark plug per cylinder system. When its set to both, you have both plugs firing. When its set to either left, right, or one system is in failure, you only have one plug per cylinder firing. A reduction in power will result, but to say "only the left part of the engine running" is simply wrong. The reason for the left/right system is just one of the many recuring back up systems found in a single engine small plane. It's called left/right because one magneto system is located on the left side of the crank and the other is located on the right side of the crank.
As far as your joystick controlling left and right, in a single engine plane, like the Cessna pictured, only one throtle is ever used. If you are having a problem it is a joystick calibration issue or really, as in real life, P-factor.
Glen NovitskyCaptain, B767-300
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DVA4949
Captain, DC-6
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Posted onPost created on
October 02 2007 09:45 ET by Chris Prine Jr.
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After this thread I think its safe to say that every so often flight sim messes up, but there is a lot more to the simulator than I thought and I am having to control her more realisticly, which I love, I am just a unexpierenced pilot and I am guessing these things come and go and might be different for other expierenced pilots, thanks all for your help and input.
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DVA4296
Captain, B737-800
Joined on April 04 2007
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Posted onPost created on
October 02 2007 12:14 ET by Boris Levenzon
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Hey Chris I had this problem, and many like this, email me, blevenzon@comcast.net
Boris LevenzonCaptain, B737-800
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DVA4965
Senior Captain, B737-800
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Posted onPost created on
October 04 2007 02:57 ET by Alan Cluff
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I had a similar problem and discovered I had two controller axis cross linked in the control setup. Are you using just a joystick or do you have pedals and/or a throttle quadrant?
Alan CluffSenior Captain, B737-800
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DVA3356
Captain, B727-200
Joined on July 15 2006
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Posted onPost created on
October 04 2007 04:43 ET by Andrew Melia
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I've had it too. On a single engine I kinda expect it because of the forces the prop wash places on the fuselage and tail fin, but I had it twice in the level D 767. I've narrowed it down to two possible causes, both user error.
1) when opening and closing the door with shift-E, it is possible for only the E to register - effectively meaning your throttle controls are ony advancing one engine. I've since assigned a joystick button to open the doors.
2) Be careful which key you assign as push to talk on SB/FSINN - I had it assigned to the same keystroke as full left rudder. Everytime I talked to ATC, off she went to the left.
Note also that if you have a full version of FSUIPC the keypresses and joystick axes and buttons need careful configuration, and its not easy to undo any changes you make. Watch out for your numlock key too. An unlocked numerical keypad does different things than a locked one
Andrew MeliaCaptain, B727-200
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AFV011
Senior Captain, B777-300
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Posted onPost created on
October 04 2007 08:40 ET by Michael Carter
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With Num Lock off, press the '5' key on the keypad to re-center the controls. This might help.
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DVA4949
Captain, DC-6
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Posted onPost created on
October 04 2007 09:47 ET by Chris Prine Jr.
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Thanks guys all your input is much appreciated, I really havent had to much problem with it lately, it could just be a fluke in the system, I recalibrated the control, and after last night watching how the prop lever can easily make one engine rotate faster and turn the plane, I might of had those slightly off. However, if it happens again I will let you know and remember so of this great information, at the time, i do believe it is inexperience as I had realism setting set to super high, so a novice pilot could easily do something to account for this overcorrections.
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DVA3095
Captain, MD-11
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Posted onPost created on
October 11 2007 00:42 ET by Lloyd Dickerson
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I blame random Flight Simulator turning-ness. I remember this happening to me in a 737 to the point where I had everything on hard right just to keep the plane in level flight. ATC kind of enjoyed the weirdness of the situation of doing an approach with an aircraft that can only make left hand turns. Big wave to Quigs.
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DVA3064
Captain, B757-200
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Posted onPost created on
October 11 2007 00:56 ET by Nick Garner
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^ LOL thats funny. I get that here and there but its just a little bit, What I do is kick my joystick to the right a bit and it fixes it, But yea i only ge tit on taxing where i have to twist a bit to the right on my rudder to kee strait. And I notice its always left. But I normally rotate my joystick around once and it fixes it, I get that every once in a great while.
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AFV011
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Posted onPost created on
October 11 2007 00:59 ET by Michael Carter
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This has happened in the past quite a few times even after a recalibration in FS or FSUIPC. My solution has always been what I stated in my above post. If this doesn't work, you may have a controller or driver problem.
It is rarely FS causing this after the above has been tried.
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DVA3432
First Officer, B777-200
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Posted onPost created on
October 11 2007 01:02 ET by Mike Peterson
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My FS does a lot of stupid stuff like this also... however for me it comes and goes with no explanation at all
Mike PetersonFirst Officer, B777-200
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