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DVA3710
Senior Captain, DC-6
OLP, COMM
Joined on November 12 2006
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DVA Fifteen-Year Anniversary
"God is my pilot. I'm just the First Officer." Apopka, FL
432 legs, 690.6 hours
35 legs,
60.8 hours online 385 legs,
620.1 hours ACARS 6 legs,
7.7 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
January 21 2008 12:01 ET by Sid Dudley
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This may be a lengthy description of the problem, but bear with me as I want to include as much info as possible. The problem is that when running in Fullscreen mode my frame rates drop far lower than they are in windowed mode. This only happened recently (within past couple of months). I was getting Frame Rates comparable to windowed mode in fullscreen.
System specs:
HP Pavillion a1330n
Windows XP Media Edition SP2
AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3800+
2.4 GHZ
1.5 GB RAM
nVidia 7300 GS PCI-E 512MB
FS2004 with everything set at MAX settings and game controlled AA, Antroscopic Filtering, Trilinear.
The only things that I have changed are updated drivers for the video card (just done today-no change in FR) and a new 22" monitor. Also shown in the screenshots is the nVidia control panel showing info on CPU and Memory usage as well as temps.
Any suggestions would be appreciated. Note: I have done an extensive search online and have come up empty.
Thanks.
Sid DudleySenior Captain, DC-6
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DVA2192
Senior Captain, A320
OLP
Joined on March 14 2005
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Attleboro, MA USA
1,703 legs, 3,149.7 hours
1,635 legs,
2,989.8 hours online 1,667 legs,
3,076.4 hours ACARS 3 legs,
5.5 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
January 21 2008 12:04 ET by Richard Walsh
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You should have your video card handle the AA
Richard WalshSenior Captain, A320
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DVA3710
Senior Captain, DC-6
OLP, COMM
Joined on November 12 2006
B757 100 Club
50 State Club
Quatercentenary Club
Piston Prop 100 Club
DVA Fifteen-Year Anniversary
"God is my pilot. I'm just the First Officer." Apopka, FL
432 legs, 690.6 hours
35 legs,
60.8 hours online 385 legs,
620.1 hours ACARS 6 legs,
7.7 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
January 21 2008 12:09 ET by Sid Dudley
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Thanks, Richie. I tried that with the old drivers. It didn't make a difference. With the new drivers that option is gone. I also forgot to mention that I did a complete uninstall and then reinstalled FS9 as well and this did not change anything.
Sid DudleySenior Captain, DC-6
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DVA1583
Senior Captain, MD-11
OLP
Joined on March 23 2004
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South America
710 legs, 1,938.2 hours
619 legs,
1,760.2 hours online 589 legs,
1,630.3 hours ACARS 16 legs,
61.2 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
January 21 2008 13:16 ET by Charly Azcue
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You took both screenshots with the same monitor ? Why I see the first shot at a lower resolution than the 2nd ?
What was your old monitor ? what resolution you used FS with the old monitor ?
You upgraded to a 22' monitor.... you went to a higher native resolution of 1600x1200 pixels while your old monitor handle a lower resolution of 1280x960 ?
You will see an impact of performance on 20' and 22' monitors since you need a better videocard for their native resolutions of 1600x1200 pixels.. you can try to lower your 22' resolution to 1280 to see what happends.
About the drivers, sorry to say Nvidia really (censored part here) the new drivers if you use FS2004.
There's a fix, try Nhancer, turn off AA in FS and read this thread (it's long but read it to the end)
http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=38921
Regards
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DVA3710
Senior Captain, DC-6
OLP, COMM
Joined on November 12 2006
B757 100 Club
50 State Club
Quatercentenary Club
Piston Prop 100 Club
DVA Fifteen-Year Anniversary
"God is my pilot. I'm just the First Officer." Apopka, FL
432 legs, 690.6 hours
35 legs,
60.8 hours online 385 legs,
620.1 hours ACARS 6 legs,
7.7 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
January 21 2008 13:41 ET by Sid Dudley
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Charly, both screenshots were taken on the same monitor at the same resolution. The old monitor was a 19". I don't remember if it support the same resolution sizes. I downloaded NHancer and will give it a try. Thanks.
Regards
Sid DudleySenior Captain, DC-6
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DVA043
Senior Captain, MD-11
OLP
Joined on June 10 2001
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"Col. Panic" Marietta, GA
2,241 legs, 8,967.3 hours
240 legs,
553.9 hours online 1,899 legs,
7,760.4 hours ACARS 75 legs,
196.3 hours event 2,277 legs, 9,102.2 hours total 91 legs dispatched, 66.4
hours
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Posted onPost created on
January 21 2008 13:46 ET by Luke Kolin
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Something's not right then, since the images are different sizes.
Cheers!
Luke KolinSenior Captain, MD-11
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DVA4254
Captain, B757-200
Joined on March 14 2007
Williamson, GA USA
72 legs, 118.5 hours
21 legs,
27.8 hours online 67 legs,
110.0 hours ACARS
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Posted onPost created on
January 21 2008 14:26 ET by Robert Ungemach
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Sid,
I am running an ATI card but I have some ideas I have been messing with that seem to help.
On my system whenever its overcast, foggy, or just plain cloudy I take a big hit in FPS. If I were sitting on the ramp in the spot plane view with a view that shows the clouds I would see a drop of 15 FPS or greater. If I move the view around where no clouds are on the screen then the FPS would jump up. I was running most of my sliders at high but I have backed off my cloud sliders and my FPS has shot back up. I still get a nice looking cloud scenery but draw distance and percentage have been moved down to somewhere around the middle of the slider.
Also I let ATI manage the AA but I never noticed a significant difference between game AA on or off.
If I am looking to compare before and after FPS I try my best to have the same weather same time of day and same airport flying the same route when I compare.
Later
Robert UngemachCaptain, B757-200
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DVA3710
Senior Captain, DC-6
OLP, COMM
Joined on November 12 2006
B757 100 Club
50 State Club
Quatercentenary Club
Piston Prop 100 Club
DVA Fifteen-Year Anniversary
"God is my pilot. I'm just the First Officer." Apopka, FL
432 legs, 690.6 hours
35 legs,
60.8 hours online 385 legs,
620.1 hours ACARS 6 legs,
7.7 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
January 21 2008 18:08 ET by Sid Dudley
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Thanks, Robert. It does take a bigger hit with bad weather, but not all the time. 1. It didn't make any difference what the weather was with old monitor. The frame rates stayed maxed out at locked rate. 2. When it is raining and then stops the frame rates drop even more which I would think not having the rain drops would be less stress on the video. I think that the problemlies in what Charly and Luke have said. For some reason the shots are at different resolution. I tried Nhancer like Charly said, but still no luck. I'll keep plugging away at it, but for now I'm not getting any flying done until I fix it. Thanks again all for the help.
Sid DudleySenior Captain, DC-6
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DVA3710
Senior Captain, DC-6
OLP, COMM
Joined on November 12 2006
B757 100 Club
50 State Club
Quatercentenary Club
Piston Prop 100 Club
DVA Fifteen-Year Anniversary
"God is my pilot. I'm just the First Officer." Apopka, FL
432 legs, 690.6 hours
35 legs,
60.8 hours online 385 legs,
620.1 hours ACARS 6 legs,
7.7 hours event
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Posted onPost created on
January 21 2008 19:19 ET by Sid Dudley
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Sorry for the size of the pics posted. I have added a third shot that I just took with the monitor at its native resolution of 1680X1050. I also had the settings in FS9 to 1680X1050X32. I also set the Framerates to unlimited and it fluctuated between 24 and 44 while in the thunderstorm and rain. Therefore I think Charly is right and I might need a better video card to run with this size monitor as it runs better in smaller screens. Thanks again all for the help.
Sid DudleySenior Captain, DC-6
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